Nice one 1435 flt !
 

Just spotted this, apologies if its been posted before. I liked the ironing scene in the back of a Herc.

Here

56 'engineers'?

Surely only 1 or 2 qualified 'engineers', the rest being maintenance technicians?

At least they managed to miss all the masts this time!

But yes, a good video!

Strange that Beags always thought an engineer was someone who designed or built things. Not just the bloke who signs red, greens and changes the shift pattern just to get noticed. Yes us groundies are maint techs and nice to see you regard the lads so highly. TTFN:D

I'd have said 55 engineers and one manager.

c17age & danieloakworth :D

good vid!!

OK - groundies are not maintenance androids, but neither are they, strictly speaking, 'engineers'...

56 folks to keep 4 F3s flying? Good work, whatever!

Was that cat a distant relative of old Trevor, the venerable 1312 Flt cat killed inhumanely by some of the groundcrew? Poor old soul was taken out into the bondhu and drowned by the bastards....they couldn't be arsed to arrnage for him to be put to sleep humanely.

Never did trust them after that....

Not such a nice one!

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...ppy/A2A067.jpg

We had the dance troop for the FI show on board, 1435 thought they were missing out on the action. I can't verify the information they wanted to impart (although I doubt it's true!) but I do know they can't spell :hmm:

PS. We also had Bucks Fizz (the group, not the drink!) on board. But I'm not a fan. Honest!

If they worked in road haulage they would be called Fitters.

Just like airframe drivers would be called truckies !:E

Back on thread..

Good vid that, nice to see our guys getting in on the act!

In the voice of Mr Burns(Simpsons)......Excerrrllennttt.

A bit of a brash generalisation there BEags.

How about those 'Maintenance Technicians' who are Degree qualified engineers in their own right, or those who are "Licenced Aircraft Engineers" who also happen to be RAF 'Maintenance Technicians'. There are an awful lot of RAF groundies who are FAR better qualified than you give them credit for! If the CAA thinks of them as "Engineers" I'm afraid their comments carry a little more weight than yours!! ;)

Top vid by the way. :ok:

Brings back many happy memories, even some happy memories of that smelly, incontinent cat!!


Flipflopman

No, no....they have it wrong. The RAF is short of manpower, it is stretched beyod stretchiness. There are too many tasks and not enough people.... 1435 have got it wrong. It wasn't 56 maintainers for 4 aircraft, it couldn't possibly be. Can someone at 1435 please get that off t'internet in case a politician or journalist spots it and wonders why the RAF are so stretched and yet 1435 are overrun with people.

Lucky it wasn't you beagle ! :E

MPA Vid/pics
 

I remember it well, any of the guys from that det out there got any more vid/pics they can send. Please PM me.
Seem to remember getting served a great dinner by the boys after they lost a bet with us.:}

Awesome video, really enjoyed it.

Great video, I almost miss the place! A big hello to all the mates involved, especially Wiki who should know better at his age.

Anyone remember Bundhu?

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k1...is/008_29A.jpg

Ha, Ha!
All "Fast" pilots think that those "not-pilot's" around them, must be engineers or maintenance!

FlipFlopMan has it almost right.

Of the 56 "Engineers" on 1435, there would be mainly technicians some mechanics, some support staff such as a clerk and maybe a cook, and some 'engineers' and, finally, some officers who managed....what? There to fill a perceived Role rather than a real one, I believe.

When I was a shift boss on 78, the engineering "officer" was a WO-man (a complete knob), who did absolutely nothing! He had read books and passed courses on man-management, but had obviously never had to do it for real. He was a Fairy who came from the MU at Sealand!

Incidently, I was also a CAA "Licenced A&C Engineer" at that time, but employed as my name suggests, unable, as where many there, to use my qualifications.

I have since learned that I would have been better thought of in the Army, where there is at least some thoughts of using the capability of individuals rather then their qualifications as at Attestation!

Awaiting the incoming.....

vecvec

Do you try hard to post something argumentative and controversial every time? Even if all 56 of the team are engineers, then 14 to each aircraft is not very much, especially when you're talking about 24hr ops. Maybe 14 engineers may be a little bit overkill on your cabs, but the Tonka is a complicated beast, and a bit of a pig to keep serviceable.

Stick to something you know about :mad:

Engineer
 

As I recall, in aircraft trades, one was either a fitter (J/T and above) or a mechanic. Some of us did have other engineering qualifications such as HND, ONC C&Gs but they weren't Aircraft Maintenance qualifications. I agree with BEags, (now look what you've started) qualified Engineers design things and work out how to build them, then the rest of us maintain them. Engineer in many cases is a much overused title. Flight Engineers for instance don't exactly 'engineer' the flight.
Sorry for drift, video was awsome.