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alexmac 14th Nov 2007 15:20

Missing rear seater
 
Report of a Warton bird, Tonka, divert Marham having lost his rear seater... SAR assets airborne... hope both crew are safe & well. A/c landed safely...

hot_spud 14th Nov 2007 15:56

Not sounding too good though. My thoughts are with the family also for the front ender.

alexmac 14th Nov 2007 16:06

Hot_Spud's thoughts echoed here too... thoughts with everyone involved.

MostlyHarmless 14th Nov 2007 16:21


Fantastic news, How can such a thing happen?
*click*
Whirrrr
BANG
Woosh!

Is the normal chain of events :)

advocatusDIABOLI 14th Nov 2007 16:39

Hope all are OK. 'How could it happen'? Well, self ejection with 'rear' selected on the command eject or an un-latched 'Top Latch'.

If the a/c landed without it's canopy, and the 'rail' out- see 1. If it landed with the (Rear) perspex missing, and no 'rail' -see 2

Happened before, Civil JP??

I truely hope all is well.

Advo

advocatusDIABOLI 14th Nov 2007 16:51

Oh, there's one other possibility. Activation of the 'Man Sep' system. Don't really want to go there........

Waiting for news, but thoughts are with all involved.

Fly Safe Mates,

Advo

Op_Twenty 14th Nov 2007 16:57

'My thoughts are with the family also for the front ender'

Why do we always do this? We fly jets, sometimes things go wrong, it's a lovely sentiment but sometimes we take it too far. No offence but let's find out what happened. Just say ' glad the chaps are ok.' No thoughts for family etc, we are still military here, let's let the family deal with it in their own time...

[email protected] 14th Nov 2007 16:58

Sorry chaps but don't hold your breath waiting for a happy ending on this one.

Wedge 14th Nov 2007 17:02

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/7095214.stm

Civvy crew from BAE systems.

Op_Twenty 14th Nov 2007 17:11

Man sep needs the handle to be pulled on the GR..., with the above on that one...

forget 14th Nov 2007 17:14


What a thoughtless and pointless post.
:confused:

Perhaps 'crab' was simply trying to convey, to those most closely involved and who know what he does, the reality of the situation.

Never Alert 14th Nov 2007 17:19

Already posted AA.

Nothing wrong with the post crab, thanks for the heads up.

Shell Management 14th Nov 2007 17:23

http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/...A57%3A17%3A513

advocatusDIABOLI 14th Nov 2007 17:36

Hmmm, Op 20, not thinking of the Hawk are you? Certainly doesn't in the F3 (Proved in 1991-ish). Same Seat, Yes?

Advo

gareth herts 14th Nov 2007 18:08

MOD press conference scheduled for 8pm apparently

advocatusDIABOLI 14th Nov 2007 18:16

Oh dear. Also, just heard they have found the seat, But calling off the search for tonight.

I hope things are being reported with the 'usual' accuracy.

Keep Safe,

Advo

abbotyobs 14th Nov 2007 18:22

On BBC news 24, reports that they have found the Navigator dead in a field.

terrible news

RIP and thoughts are with the family.

30mRad 14th Nov 2007 18:42

The news now reported on BBC and the impending MOD news conf is sad news indeed. My condolences to the family.

I can't believe that the 2nd post on this thread gave such good news. People REALLY should learn not to post anything until they know the absolute truth.

I've seen it happen in ops as well - and it's soul destroying to all concerned. Lets not have rumour and speculation and mis-reporting.

RIP and I'll raise a glass in your memory tonight.

Tigs2 14th Nov 2007 18:52

Crab

Sorry chaps but don't hold your breath waiting for a happy ending on this one
EXACTLY the right post so early on in such an incident.(can every one please learn from this!!)
Insty66

What a thoughtless and pointless post.:mad:
What a thoughtless and pointless post.:mad::mad::mad:
Thoughts and condolences with all the families. Please understand that comments on here are often made in haste in a hope to bring good news.
RIP

Tigs2 14th Nov 2007 19:23

Never
Understood. Quote deleted! I understand how it happens! When i crashed into the North Sea, the boss locked everyone in the squadron and only allowed phone access to him and sqn ops, to ensure they new the exact story, and whether i was ok, before disinformation got out... top bloke!!The internet means info travels fast these days, but in cases like this everyone should be the LAST to post, not the first. I once remember two Harriers crashing. One died, one survived, the Staish told the wives the wrong outcome about their husbands. Had to go back to both and say sorry 'yours is alive, yours is ....etc'. When these things happen, hold your breath and wait. I hope Ops are given a thorough and severe debrief.


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