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Doobs 17th Jul 2007 14:42

Volunteers for Dog Handling
 
I noticed on the PMA trawl for volunteers website, that volunteers from any trade are invited to go on OOA at MPA as Dog Handlers. Is this the first nail in the coffin for the RAF Police trade?
Would any other tradesmen out there consider volunteering for a 3 week dog course then go 'operational' with a Police dog?
This hasnt gone down too well within the ranks of the RAF Police as this specialisation is seen as sacred turf.

c-bert 17th Jul 2007 14:48

Dog Handler at MPA? Isn't that OC of the Stanley WI?

Doobs 17th Jul 2007 14:51

There are quite a few dogs down there that need handling!!

Mr-Burns 17th Jul 2007 14:54

This is a real shame. I am not a fan of anything that upsets our RAF Police colleagues. They do a great, professional job and have always been completely straight with me. Even when I was nicked for having my tax disc on the dash board instead of attached to the window and I had to take all of my documents 30 miles to beg forgiveness. He was only doing his job and I respect him for it. God bless'em.

PS Where do I sign for the course??

eyespied 17th Jul 2007 14:59

I thought a dog was for life?

c-bert 17th Jul 2007 15:01

Only if she marries you.

Runaway Gun 17th Jul 2007 15:52

He has a real point there. Dogs should be paired up to the most suitable human handler, and remain a team that bonds effectively.

Utilising a dog as a borrowed tool is not ideal.

Friedlander 17th Jul 2007 17:56

Ooh, no posts for ages and ages and now 2 at once!

I remember the Dog Handlers at a certain Unit at which I served - they thought they were the dogs' danglies (sorry), and constantly went on about how specially selected they were etc - in short, they were above everyone else.

Now, the truth is out 'any rank, any trade' - I wonder if Flight Ops officers can apply - then they'd have a job!;)

Friedlander

PerArdua 17th Jul 2007 18:10

First the barriers went civvie and now the dogs are looking for new owners. It must be one long tea break in RAFP HQ

PA

Krystal n chips 17th Jul 2007 18:15

Presumably, and in keeping with the RAF's policy of equal opps. of course, the Dogs concerned have been consulted on this matter ?

The Helpful Stacker 17th Jul 2007 18:24


It must be one long tea break in RAFP HQ
Gives them plenty of time to count their pay I suppose, now that their trade is considered as technical as all those chaps and chapesses who seem to spend half their lives at Cosford.

Still, apparently the MT trade may well be joining the hammer wielders and barrier operators in the higher pay band soon too.:ugh:

The Helpful Stacker 17th Jul 2007 19:08

AIDU - To be honest I couldn't give two hoots either way.

I will be a civvy soon and the job I'm going into pays over twice what I earn after many years hard graft and has a company car, Bupa membership and very reasonable pension scheme thrown in too.

Stackering may not pay too well in the mob but the civilian-accredited qualifications you can gain more than make up for it.:ok:

Anyway, its no good pointing, the USAS says its not there.:p

ProfessionalStudent 17th Jul 2007 19:21

There's been no draw down in RAFP. The reason any trade can apply is that all the Snowdrops are in KAF or Basrah ensuring you're not speeding and that you reverse into your parking space.

No sympathy here, I'm afraid. Except for the dogs that get partnered with the Flt Ops officers!:{

buoy15 17th Jul 2007 20:41

I think you will find that the trade group for the dog (25?) is higher than for the handler (26?) - hence, it's the dog that gets posted and the the handler accompanies it - likewise - the working shifts are planned for the dog (6hours) so the handlers get loads of time off - dogs life really!
I can't recall ever seeing any handlers carrying pooper scoopers with them on patrol - so obviously, not a crap job;)

Green Flash 17th Jul 2007 21:00

I saw a couple of dogs dragging the attached snowdrops around RIAT on Sunday. They were having their phot's taken with Joe Public. Aww.

Clear Right,Px Good! 17th Jul 2007 21:34

Every Dog Has His Day
 
Just a query....

What is the Dog PVR rate these days, and are they too becoming a 'Pinch' trade?.

Also....has leaning affected them in the way that it has others...ie; are their 'doggy' processes being scrutinesed in the interests of efficiency and improvement, as are ours.

A mere aside, yet an interesting thought !

CRPxGood

Seldomfitforpurpose 17th Jul 2007 22:58

"AIDU - To be honest I couldn't give two hoots either way.

I will be a civvy soon and the job I'm going into pays over twice what I earn after many years hard graft and has a company car, Bupa membership and very reasonable pension scheme thrown in too.

Stackering may not pay too well in the mob but the civilian-accredited qualifications you can gain more than make up for it.:ok:

Anyway, its no good pointing, the USAS says its not there.:p"

I thought the latest Harry Potter was not out till Friday, how did this work of fiction escape from Mills and Boon :rolleyes:

The Helpful Stacker 18th Jul 2007 06:21

Ah yes of course its fiction. A lowly stacker could never find a job in civvy street that pays well and above what he earns in the RAF, not even with a whole raft of qualifications gained through in service employment.

I'll contact the company straight away and tell them that Col Blimp says I should get back in my box.

I apologise for for not knowing my place and beg forgiveness from the ranks of Pprune. I'll strike those expensive to gain qualifications I have from my CV and seek advice from 'Seldomfitforpurpose' as to what is the correct career direction for a humble serf like myself to take in the future, perhaps a career stacking beans in Tesco would be more in keeping for the level at which he sees those of us of a logistics bent.

:rolleyes:

Doobs 18th Jul 2007 06:44

So returning to the original question...........

Would anyone out there apply???????

PICKS135 18th Jul 2007 17:51

How does the dog get its money for 'pay as you starve' ?? :):)


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