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Phoney Tony 30th Jun 2007 18:01

How was the RAF Waddington Airshow?
 
The weather looked poor.

100-500 ft cloud base in showers.

Did the Reds turn up?

Hope the weather is ok on Sunday.

Russell Sprout 30th Jun 2007 18:15

Not too bad a day, weather was pants, Maggi turned up for the Falklands memorial parade, does anyone no if the Falklands display aircraft are an official collection? Enjoyed the IMC Chinook and reds display....

Fitbin 30th Jun 2007 18:28

Best bit about the Reds was their initial entrance with the Sentinel, shame they were 1 down cos of a broken wrist.

Spam_UK 30th Jun 2007 20:32

As has been mentioned weather was rubbish but still a real good turn out, displays were ace.

Hopefully it will clear up a bit for tomorrow.

MRA4 was quite impressive as well, didn't do much but just to see that it exists and can fly was a relief :}.

BluntM8 30th Jun 2007 22:12

Was quite amusing to listen to Red 10 on Airshow FM as they broke off the display. All the old phrases about "Safety First" etc I remember so well from debriefs during BFJT, delivered in the same uber-serious tone of voice! The angry dwarf lives on! :)

Phoney Tony 1st Jul 2007 07:31

Glad to hear day one went well despite the weather.

As I type the rain has gone and the sky is blue.

Looking at the Rainfall Radar the down burst from this morining was localised with little following.

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The MRA4 was good to see, but missed the smell and roar of the speys!

Chox Away 1st Jul 2007 07:50

Airshow cancelled
 
Just heard on the Radio - todays airshow at Waddington is cancelled. There is to be no flying display, nor will the public be allowed on site to view the static display either. Health & Safety of the public is being cited as the main reason for the cancellation.

Latest Info-
1) Too much water already on site.
2) Emergency services being freed up in order to assist possible floods in Lincoln City Centre (River Witham nearing bursting)
3) The cancellation is not related to recent security incidents.

Spotting Bad Guys 1st Jul 2007 07:52

Just been announced - the official line is that due to a large amount of overnight rain, today's show is cancelled entirely.

Sad, as the weather is improving!

Airshow FM reporting that it is nothing to do with the raised national security state, the decision has purely been taken on H & S grounds.

SBG

Dammit Chox, you beat me to it!

Orville The Duck 1st Jul 2007 08:37

Sorry to hear about the show being cancelled today. Luckily I was one of the thousands who were daft enough to brave the rain yesterday.

Despite a few of the displays being slightly stilted due to the low cloud base, it was still a fantastic show. Shame no Battle of Britain Memorial flight (luckily I see it all the time as I live just up the road from Coningsby), and unfortunately the tactical scenario didn't happen but seeing 2 Tornados approach in apparent silence (they were shifting) to carry out simulated bombing raids was amazing.

Other highlights were the Typhoon, AWESOME, the weather actually made it more impressive as it blasted through low the moisture in the air and that noise - incredible. The last display, Red Bull Matadors were absolutely fantastic too, shame so many people had given up and gone home after the tactical scenario got cancelled - they missed a real treat as the cloud base was high enough for their full looping display.

Overall a great, inspiring show, it's a shame I got into the whole aviation thing too late, after seeing what I saw yesterday if I was 16 I'd be queing up to sign on the dotted line.

NURSE 1st Jul 2007 10:23

was also one of the drenched rats from yesterday.
was very good despite the weather. The curtailing of the tactical display was a shame but the Tonka stike was impressive.
I have to say the Nimrod grey scheme looks excellent and Typhoon is amazing I do think they should pinch a quote From "Hot Fuzz" to introduce it "Bring the Noise" it certainly what i pay my taxes for.
My wife was suprised by how small the chinook and hercules actually and the Wokka display was good.
Was nice to see the variety of F16's and Tonka but was pleased to see the A10 again pity it wasn't flying. I do hope the Idnians enjoyed themselves as it was different to see the Candid and Flanker

OHP 15M 1st Jul 2007 10:52

I fully understand the decision to cancel the Airshow over Health & Safety concerns for the general public due to bad weather.

However, what I fail to understand is why the Airshow could continue given the fact that the national terror threat level was raised to critical (its highest level, indicating an attack is expected imminently). I for one am not so sure that we should afford such an 'easy' opportunity for a bunch suicidal nutters to potentially cause untold damage and mayhem on a MoD site with thousands of members of the public in attendance.

If a disastrous incident had occurred, perhaps one could argue a strong case of MoD negligence during a period of heightened security?

Safety_Helmut 1st Jul 2007 11:22

Right, hang on, I was there yesterday, and it was ........................................a waste of a Saturday.

Yes the weather was bad, but the whole thing just smacks of commercialism ! No longer trying to show off the RAF at its best, but just trying to maximise income. A bloody great funfair smack in the middle of the best viewing areas, loads of other chavvy stalls selling tat. A parking area for those who paid a little bit more, again smack bang in the middle of the best viewing areas. As for the displays, well I know the weather was bad, but come on a circuit from each of the so called ISTAR triad, wow, oh and the bloke commentating: clueless !

I shouldn't moan too much though, I didn't pay, but if I was the paying public, I would think my money wasted.

Cancelling today because of the weather, pull the other one, you had the weather forecast, surely you could see that yesterday should have been cancelled and gone for it today ?

S_H

Safety_Helmut 1st Jul 2007 11:44


but a sensible decision based on the fact that vehicles were rapidly sinking into the airfield.
surely not ?

There was a news item on the airshow website, dated 26th June, now removed by the way, (to save face ?). That stated all of the heavy rain was not a problem as the airfield has excellent drainage.

S_H

ShyTorque 1st Jul 2007 12:06

Personally, Having read the website info regarding drainage (before it was changed), I don't believe the airshow was cancelled for the main reason stated, either.

SPIT 1st Jul 2007 13:27

Hi
I am not being A TIGHT AR** but will there be any refunds for those who got adv/tickets for Sunday and stand to loose £36.0p: :rolleyes::rolleyes:.
After all £36 quid is £36 quid .

Mightycrewseven 1st Jul 2007 13:41

Safety Helmut: Ignorant Sponger
 
Safety Helmut:

Right, hang on, I was there yesterday, and it was ........................................a waste of a Saturday.
and

As for the displays, well I know the weather was bad, but come on a circuit from each of the so called ISTAR triad, wow, oh and the bloke commentating: clueless !
I'm one of the ISTAR triad crew and although I did not fly in yesterday's display, I had a long chat, after the display, with my colleagues who had. They were a little concerned that when the 3-ship formed up (in close formation) to conduct the 'scheduled' flypast, they entered low cloud and lost sight of each other, heaving to break off before something 'nasty' happened. Rightly, the aircraft captains' decided to 'fly through' individually, which meant, due to the display schedule, they could only conduct one pass each. 'Wow' you might well say, but your expectations of something more exciting hi-light your complete ignorance of flight safety. All aircrew in yesterdays display took a degree of risk in order to put on at least some sort of display in abhorent weather conditions, so people like you could get your money's worth.........but oh, I forgot.........
Safety Helmut:

I didn't pay, but if I was the paying public, I would think my money wasted.
You pathetic sponging t****er (concessionary ticket from a friend in the RAF was it?). :mad::mad::mad: You are right, you have no right to moan. All PAYING spectators that go to airshows know that bad weather means a limited flying display and, let's face it, the weather reports leading up to the show didn't exactly say we were going to have a glorious day, did they?
Safety Helmut (again):

the whole thing just smacks of commercialism ! No longer trying to show off the RAF at its best, but just trying to maximise income
All profits of Waddington airshow goes to charity - that's real commercialism isn't it?
I suspect this must be your first airshow - K**b Jockey.
RANT OVER

electric.sheep 1st Jul 2007 13:51


All aircrew in yesterdays display took a degree of risk in order to put on at least some sort of display in abhorent weather conditions,
That statement worries me, there should have been no more risk taken yesterday than at any other display, regardless of the weather.

exrotarybooty 1st Jul 2007 13:56

Russel
Some shots of the Falklands display, including 'Maggie'. Royal Marines Gazelle XX411 was shot down on day one of the landing, into San Carlos Water, when the Sgt pilot was killed. The surviving air-crewman was at the ceremony. 'X' belongs to the aeroventure museum near Doncaster www.aeroventure.org.uk/xx411.php but was renovated by a great team of AAC REME guys in NI.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...addington6.jpg
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ERB

Mightycrewseven 1st Jul 2007 14:01

Electric sheep

A degree of risk taking into account safety limitations.

OHP 15M 1st Jul 2007 14:04

SPIT,

Read the back of your ticket:

"Nor will the organisers be obliged to refund any entrance monies, should the event for which the ticket grants admission not take place or be curtailed."

However, the announcement on Airshow FM invited members of the public to send their tickets, along with a covering letter, to the Airshow Office at Waddington, where refunds will be considered. So, depending on how good your letter is, you may get refunded. Perhaps you could start you letter with:

Dear Airshow Organisers,

I'm not being a TIGHT A***, but £36 is £36

Good luck anyway.


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