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Anton Meyer 4th Jun 2007 14:35

New cold war...NEW RAF(G)?
 
What with all this posturing from Mr Putin, one wonders if it is time to re-establish RAF(G)?
We could all leave the desert and take back those premier fg stations that were once ours, namely Gutersloh and Bruggen, for example. With a more realistic threat of terror - thousands of vodka-plastered Cossacks and ancient T-62s coming over the horizon - I feel sure Mr Brown will draw down the wars on the frontiers. Moreover, it is a real vote-winner as Europe-shire is just a few miles away and that chunnel would make it a little bit more interesting this time round....
Get that Vulcan repaired for active duty...we may yet have need for it..

hoodie 4th Jun 2007 15:56

And about that "Cold War Relic" Typhoo... :E

maxburner 4th Jun 2007 17:20

And don't forget the tax free cars and LOA.......

Big Bear 4th Jun 2007 17:27

And no 2 can rule....:}

OHP 15M 4th Jun 2007 17:36

But we've just spent the last 10 years downsizing to 42,000 personnel :uhoh: ... through redundancy etc ... not to mention the Army and RN...doh ! Perhaps MoD should start a program called Options for Change, increase the defence budget (by lots of £££) and start recruiting again to counter the re-emergence of the old Ruskie threat. Bring back National Service, that's what I say :ok:

MrBernoulli 4th Jun 2007 17:51

I ain't volunteering to come back. Sod that .................

Talk Wrench 4th Jun 2007 18:18

I'll come back if they want me, but only if i can have my old rank and can match my current salary and benefits.

A Corporal techy on OC Eng pay? I think not.:E

Talk Wrench

ORAC 4th Jun 2007 18:41

The point of RAF(G) was that the threat (WP) was just across the East german border. The nearest threat is now on the Baltic States/Ukrainian eastern border.

So, unless you have a few V force bombers tucked away some where, I think it might be a bit out of combat range.....

Navaleye 4th Jun 2007 19:03

What about RAF(P) then?

Big Bear 4th Jun 2007 19:08


The point of RAF(G) was that the threat (WP) was just across the East german border. The nearest threat is now on the Baltic States/Ukrainian eastern border.
Exactly, so should we not have our bases further east in the new NATO countries?

Posting to Prague please Desky!!:}

spectre150 5th Jun 2007 06:54


The point of RAF(G) was that the threat (WP) was just across the East german border. The nearest threat is now on the Baltic States/Ukrainian eastern border.

Ah I see what you mean when I re-read your post. For a moment I thought you meant that there was a threat that Estonia was going to get a result against England on Wednesday night.:}

Pretty tough for those guys having Russia as an immediate neighbour given Putin's belligerence (removal of the Soviet war memorial from the centre of Tallinn by the Estonian government was always likely to offend, in fairness).

Anyway, back to the thread. Laarbruch was great in the late 80s: Deci, Goose, Red/Green Flag, MINEVAL/MAXEVAL/TACEVAL, Germany low flying areas (until the min ht went up to 1000ft), cheap beer, cheap cars, cheap petrol etc etc etc. I had still had enough after 6 years and was glad to get back to the UK.

621andy 5th Jun 2007 07:07

It's a VERY different Germany now- cheap beer, cheap cars, cheap petrol...dream on:rolleyes:

Jaguar Pilot 5th Jun 2007 08:16

Ah, Bruggen.

About fifty jets and pilots, and three thousand police and alsations!

Looking at Google Earth the place doesn't quite look the same now.

JP

NURSE 5th Jun 2007 08:31

Yeap RAF(P), Looks like the Light role Brigades will have to be re-roled and armoured forces put back into ascendencey for BAOV.(British army of the Vistula)

Mmmmnice 5th Jun 2007 19:28

Can I book a seat on the trooper back to Gutersloh? Make mine a Wobbly.....

BEagle 5th Jun 2007 20:01

Dear Vlad,

Top idea, me old tovarich. Make the stupid MoD beancounters and the 'Your hardship, my stars' leaders realise how badly they've served the UK ever since 'Options for Defeat'......

Keep it up for just long enough to make Gray Gordon implode in a sea of confusion before Green Dave takes over, gthen watch the new Conservative UK government commit itself to increased defence spending!

Then tell everyone they misunderstood you, really! But not until we've replaced the Nimrod, VC10, TriStar, PR9 etc etc with something a bit more, well, 21st Century. And reopened a couple of dozen or more RAF aerodromes, thrown out any PFI and/or contractor-operated nonsense, tripled the size of the RAF, rebuilt Nocton Hall, Ely, Wroughton and Wegberg........

But be careful about that ar$e Bush. He may not quite understand that you have concerns about him blundering into Europe to install a whole shedload of rockets on your doorstep. Try saying "Remember Cuba, 1962?" and see whether he remembers how pi$$ed of Kennedy was when your predecessors parked a whole load of rockets on his doorstep!

Cheers,

BEags.

Maple 01 5th Jun 2007 21:25

Goodo, what time does the CIO open? Iraq/Afghanistan? Pah! That's not real soldiering*

http://www.e-goat.co.uk/photoplog/index.php?c=11

Third picture down







That was meant to be funny

BEagle 8th Jun 2007 16:47

One hears that the Great Leader has been having 'frank discussions' with Mr Putin at the G8 summit..........


TheSmiter 8th Jun 2007 17:06

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia...c7/Kinnock.jpg

And it was all so different last year.

wokkameister 12th Jun 2007 20:56

Relax,

This Cold War II thing and a return to Germany is a cunning ploy by OC18 Sqn to gain new members. Put the rumour of a return to Gutersloh about and watch them grovel.....

How he got the Russian president in on it is beyond me though, I must admit!

WM


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