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DKP1 22nd May 2007 20:30

RAF on the F word
 
Cant beleive the pilots have said "sport of kings" and "very expensive toys"

I mean, are we not trying to improve our pr and do we do this by saying we have toys and that the flying is sport???

Surely talking about how vital the F3 fleet is in defending poor old blighty would have been better??.....

blot bang rub!

themightyimp 22nd May 2007 20:40

Good to see that they gave an excellent impression. What a bunch of to$$er$ :ugh:. Still, they are the finest; Tesco finest :D:D

Lima Juliet 22nd May 2007 20:41

No...It is the Sport of Kings and they are great toys - unfortunately Mrs LJ made me get rid of my toys a few years ago :{

Come on mate, the lure of toys got me into the RAF in the first place - all got a bit serious during and ever-after GW1. Surely, this is just the sort of promotion we want for one of the coolest jobs in the world; I'm sick to the back-teeth of namby-pamby RAF fluffy adverts about "you don't have to fly to be in the RAF" and "the RAF is more than just Pilots". Now that is a load of tripe; flying is our core business and we should be proud of it!

What was funny is that the skinny pilot on the F-Word has a callsign of "Fats" - surprised that Gordo didn't pick up on it?

Standing by for the abuse from pongos, penguins and fish-heads that don't have cool jobs...;)

LJ

SirToppamHat 22nd May 2007 20:47

DKP1, I know what you're saying, but I am sure masses of things were said, and the TV chaps will, of course, keep only the bits that suit them.

Would you have preferred a 3* to pitch up and preach the party line for the camera? How much of that do you think would have reached the screen?
I was just a bit concerned that the next time they are scrambled, there might be a delay because of the crews being in mid-fry-up! I also thought the cheese and ham toasties looked better than the alternative, and I doubt the ingredients were truly representative of what's available in the Q shed! I can just picture the scene when the guys come in to find someone from the other watch has had it away with the cardomen (sp?) pods and cinnamon sticks!;)

It's past my bed time.

brit bus driver 22nd May 2007 20:48

LJ - much as my fingers are fighting to agree and support the fighter fraternity, I have to agree. If they'd had some boring git blahing on about how vital the role is (though I think you'll find that this was highlighted by Mr R) there would have been the opposite reaction on here. Nothing wrong with a bit of gratuitous back-slapping and some nice aerial shots - some spotty youth may just have been enthused enough to show an interest; I doubt that a declaration of military priorities would have had quite the same effect.

Oh, and I did hear it was a case of

......airborne.....g.......queasy.....bag....chunder.....'ch under in a bag - done!' :yuk:

Any truth?

brit bus driver 22nd May 2007 20:50

Bugger - STH beat me to it! Still, glad I'm not alone!

Wingswinger 22nd May 2007 20:55

'twere the "Sport of Kings" and they were "very expensive toys" 35 years ago when I joined. Plus ca change....

Lima Juliet 22nd May 2007 20:56


airborne.....g.......queasy.....bag....chund er.....'chunder in a bag - done!'
I believe so...I wasn't there to see it though.

We used to get a chef on Southern QRA - they obviously slum it up North???

By the way, official secret, it wasn't the Q shed that they showed on telly either (Sh...Mum's the word), they were in the Sqn crewroom!

High_Expect 22nd May 2007 21:00

DKP1
 
DKP1 jealousy is a terrible thing, and despite your best efforts to hide it I believe that might be what you’re are suffering from…. :}

….. Now go and light an extra CS tablet in tomorrows chamber run to make yourself feel better.. C##K!
:ok:

Brain Potter 22nd May 2007 22:53

It makes a refreshing change to see a TV piece that a Sqn Commander hasn't hijacked for himself. So often the chance for genuinely good PR/recruiting is wasted because senior officers can't resist the temptation to get their own mug onto camera. Far better to show folks that the audience have a chance of identifying with - Good effort 43.
BTW what odds on chorizo-whatever being cooked in that crewroom again?

billynospares 23rd May 2007 06:46

F word
 
Yea but come on. Only fit half an hour in for lunch !!!!!!! :hmm:

Mr Blake 23rd May 2007 07:07

Cheese toasties!!!!!! Couldn't they have walked 5 minutes to the excellent feeder. What a slur on the catering staff at Leechers. Did you also notice the token Liney backtracking on crew out? I suspect not only to keep away from this boys backslapping, but to avoid the humiliation of being crated.

And it is not the finest fighter in the RAF. It is the only fighter in the RAF. Apart from RAF Reg of course.

snapper41 23rd May 2007 07:23

To quote Leon: 'I'm sick to the back-teeth of namby-pamby RAF fluffy adverts about "you don't have to fly to be in the RAF" and "the RAF is more than just Pilots". Now that is a load of tripe; flying is our core business and we should be proud of it!'

Leon - grow up

Chris Kebab 23rd May 2007 07:38

Cripes - themightyimp - you must have one hell of a chip on your shoulder matey. Registering with PPRune to make that your only posting. Presumably you didn't get in?

Fly ANY fast jet - it is indeed the sport of kings.

DKP1 23rd May 2007 07:52

I dont think a 3* spouting would have been better than talking to the JO's....... I just think that describing the RAF as bit of a club to the british public that fund us wasnt the best idea. The tax payers need to know that they are getting "value for money." This years RAF air display isn't all just fast low noisy stuff but a demonstration of their relevant role.... An E3 in a racetrack with 2 F3's doing a CAP, followed by GR4's attacking the groung and then the F3's chasing down 2 hawks.... letting the people know what we do and how we do it. It is the impression of many of the public that we do just p*ss around punching holes in the sky stunt flying.

DKP1 23rd May 2007 07:56

I dont think a 3* spouting would have been better than talking to the JO's....... I just think that describing the RAF as bit of a club to the british public that fund us wasnt the best idea. The tax payers need to know that they are getting "value for money." This years RAF air display isn't all just fast low noisy stuff but a demonstration of their relevant role.... An E3 in a racetrack with 2 F3's doing a CAP, followed by GR4's attacking the groung and then the F3's chasing down 2 hawks.... letting the people know what we do and how we do it. It is the impression of many of the public that we do just p*ss around punching holes in the sky stunt flying.

Oh and I'm not a rock.....

blot bang rub.....

BluntedAtBirth 23rd May 2007 07:58

So no one mentioned Pay-as-you-Dine? Got off lightly there then :)

SaddamsLoveChild 23rd May 2007 08:06

So if any cuts needed to be made......
 
The F3 Farce would be my choice:\.

XferSymbol 23rd May 2007 08:22

Nice to see the FJ stick-monkeys bigging themselves up eh? :ugh:

Waiting now for the 'Lord Flashard' egos to reply........:}

Take That 23rd May 2007 13:27

The Sport of Kings
 
DKP1.

Yawnnnnnnnnn....

The mightyimp.

Who on earth rattled your cage to make such an offensive attack.

From my dog-eared copy of Robert Prest's 'F4 Phantom, A Pilot's Story'. Chapter 5, spookily titled 'Forty-Three Squadron, Fighting Cocks'

'Air Combat, the sport of kings. Detachment to Malta and intensive flying phase, twenty eight sorties a day (those were the days). 'Okay,' Boss says, 'take tanks off ships, lets go do ACM!' Here I get my first early taste of Phantom combat. Surely this is what being a fighter pilot is all about, me against him, one brain against another, one set of muscles against another, he who flies the smoothest, the meanest, the most cunning, most aggressive, most tactical fight within the legal limits wins, it is as simple as that. So all eyes brighten, secret pet theories germinate. We all start off with one versus one. We fire up the birds and all day long leap into a superb cloudless sky to trail thunder across the Mediterranean Sea'.

That book was part of the inspiration to me to work harder at school and get onto a Fighter Squadron. It conveys a sense of spirit, cameraderie, tradition and elan that depite years of erosion through continual ops, political correctness, doing more with less and just the odd bit of small minded envy, can still be found, certainly within the Squadron that I'm currently on. Last night's peice, from the people I've spoken to this morning who do not serve in the RAF, was really well received. Personally, it does more for PR than our current Media Recruitment Campaign and an endless stream of glossy magazines. If you didn't like it, well I'm sorry, but offensive remarks do not really add to the debate. Would you have a different opinion had it been your unit?

43(F) Sqn, well done. Great peice.
:D


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