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Heliport 18th Mar 2007 19:05

Lynx down in South Armagh
 
Just before 1800 GMT.

Field in Foxfield Road, close to the army base at Crossmaglen.

No further details at the moment.

ChristopherRobin 18th Mar 2007 19:09

Lynx crash at R650
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6464999.stm

no news other than this yet

Kestrel_909 18th Mar 2007 19:43

From BBC link above - "A number of casualties were taken to hospital. It is thought that at least one of them is in a serious condition."

Fingers crossed

barnstormer1968 18th Mar 2007 19:55

Have only just managed to get on-line for info. As radio 4 didn't have any details earlier. Best wishes to all involved, fingers firmly crossed here too.

Selfloading 18th Mar 2007 21:00

Looking hopeful at the moment:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...pter-Crash.php

AHQHI656SQN 18th Mar 2007 22:30

Wishing a speedy recovery to all involved
 
Fingers crossed none of those involved were seriously injured:ouch:

Jackonicko 18th Mar 2007 22:54

These ink-stained 'journo fingers' are crossed too. The NI Lynx force seems to include a disproprtionate number of fellow PPRuNers, good friends and darned stout chaps.

cokecan 19th Mar 2007 09:39

seven on board, Two Army Casualties, Four PSNI and one apparently unharmed.

walking wounded is the phrase going around at the mo, though whether that applies to all is unknown.

in somewhat of a departure of late, instead of being greeted with 12.7mm, RPG and and a Black and Decker for the unlucky, the most that the locals could manage were some snowballs for the Ambulance crew.

apparently it may have clipped the fence, the weather was vile.

hope all are ok soon.

Tiger_mate 19th Mar 2007 10:27

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...icopter203.jpg
BBC(NI)News

Eyewitnesses said the Lynx helicopter clipped a fence near the Lismore housing estate before crashing in the field.

Vincent McParland said the helicopter came in hard
Vincent McParland and his wife watched the crash from their kitchen.

"We heard it coming and looked out, it was coming in brave and hard and low, next thing it swooped round and we saw it going round twice and went over on its side - next thing it hit the ground," he said.

The police said that ambulance crews removing the casualties from the scene came under attack by local youths throwing stones, fireworks and snowballs.
Similar attacks were made on police officers on the ground. There are no reports of any casualties.

I suspect that it was a bit more than a few harmless snowballs, but glad to hear that all are safe. Worth a note that the eyewitness is unlikely to be an unbiased rotary expert and 'brave and hard' is more akin to tabloid headlines, whilst any helicopter about to land will be 'low'. I cannot believe for one min that the population of Crossmaglen stop all to watch helicopters that have been a normal part of daily life there for decades. It would be like me stopping top watch a car drive by, one of hundreds every day. Not much in the way of Nr when it rolled though, else all the blades would be in bits.

harrier007 19th Mar 2007 10:43

The local news have recently released that Four PSNI and Two Military personnel were admitted to Hospital, one of which was airlifted to Craigavon Area Hospital from the scene.

Three have since been released, however one of the injured party is being treated for back injury.

cokecan 19th Mar 2007 10:44

Tiger Mate,

"Worth a note that the eyewitness is unlikely to be an unbiased rotary expert and 'brave and hard' is more akin to tabloid headlines"

dunno, i would of said that 'Brave and Hard' would be a fairly common figure of local speech, denoting anything unusually fast, low or noisy.

Chavs in sooped up Nova's would be said locally to drive in a 'Brave and Hard' manner, drunken youths being aggressive in the street or in bars would be described as acting in a 'Brave and Hard' manner.

jayteeto 19th Mar 2007 12:47

Hopefully the press office will be working in normal 'speak'. Serious injury can be as simple as a broken bone, very serious or critical is still above. Not sure what brown trousers is classed as though. Mine would have been!! Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery and a sensible BOI.

Zoom 19th Mar 2007 14:54

If my memory serves me well, brave is used often to accentuate the next couple of words, eg, 'It's brave and cold outside' means 'its very cold'. Accordingly 'brave and hard' would mean 'very hard' and would have little to do with bravery per se.

eastern wiseguy 19th Mar 2007 16:56

Zoom ......has it correct..."quare and hard" would be another..


Thoughts with all on board ....


EW BFS Atco

ranger703 19th Mar 2007 17:00

Another tribute to the strength of the Lynx airframe.The 2nd one I've seen in the last couple of years where the cabin has retained its shape with seemingly minimal damage.

In this case,albeit loathed to say,great design and engineering from the French!

Here's wishing a speedy recovery to all involved.

RETDPI 19th Mar 2007 18:05

"In this case,albeit loathed to say,great design and engineering from the French!"


Actually - No.

IIRC the Lynx was the only one out of the Westland /Aerospatiale package (the other two being Puma and Gazelle) which had British design leadership. Admittedly it was not originally a Westland helicopter design (what was!) -but it was at least British.
There was an argument at the time in Westlands that the Lynx should have been called the Westland Weed, because:
Firstly, it was alliterative.
Secondly ,the naval version could have been called the "SeaWeed".
Thirdly the joint U.K./Fr agreement could have alluded to its being, phonetically at least, "agreed'.







Or, alternatively, "P*ssed upon".


Regardless of all this. Best wishes for a speedy recovery to all involved in the latest ding.

aytoo 19th Mar 2007 22:57

Wasn't the original design from Saunders Roe prior to Wastelands taking it all over?

Apropos of nothing, but IIRC the criterion for the naming of the three cabs involved was that the names had to be the same in French and English.

Two's in 20th Mar 2007 00:06


Another tribute to the strength of the Lynx airframe.The 2nd one I've seen in the last couple of years where the cabin has retained its shape with seemingly minimal damage.
...shame about its complete lack of a crashworthy fuel system and propensity to burst into flames after the slightest ding. A characteristic this crew avoided, thank heavens.

Gainesy 20th Mar 2007 11:10


darned stout chaps
There's some banter there about pies but...:E


Hope all involved have a speedy recovery.:ok:

Been There... 20th Mar 2007 15:22

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6470775.stm


The remains of the craft were removed by an Army Chinook helicopter on Tuesday and taken to RAF Aldergrove.
Don't you just love the press!


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