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TheSmiter 28th Feb 2007 16:57

Harrier and Tonka in near miss
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/6404387.stm

Wheesht! Jings, Hamish what was that? :mad:

Glad I wasn't the groundie cleaning up the cockpits on landing!

ZH875 28th Feb 2007 17:10

At least the groundie could have the canopy open!!:E

mojocvh 28th Feb 2007 18:58

What flight level was this at?

Few years back two "southern" F3's Kissed, belly to tail.

Guess sometimes you make your own luck.

MoJo

boopboop 28th Feb 2007 19:56

This was at 250ft, the HUD video is a shocker

Pie Man 28th Feb 2007 20:01

MoJo

What flight level was this at?
Answer down in the weeds.
Full details at link below:
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/423/01_07_...ed_airprox.pdf
Not sure if link will work as you have to accept conditions of viewing information. If link does not work go to UKAB website and look at January 2007 assessed airproxes. Page 73 of the pdf file is the Harrier v Tornado.
Pie

GreenKnight121 1st Mar 2007 00:37

Reminds me of the F/A-18D - F-5E "near miss" reported in the article by G. L. Koelzer in the February/March 2006 Air & Space.

ACM in 2002 at MCAS Yuma, Arizona. The F-5E crossed the flight path of the Hornet belly-on, from
right-to-left at exactly the same flight level. The Hornet pilot reporting both hearing and feeling the J85s of the F-5E.

The instrumentation aboard both aircraft (used for post-flight reconstruction & evaluation of the action) showed the "miss distance" as "1 foot, plus or minus 3 feet"!



I have scanned the article into a WORD ducument, and also the computer-generated "closest-approach" image (which shows the aircraft interpenetrated), but as it is a copywrited article, I don't know if it would be allowable to post it here (I know others do, but I want to know for sure).


lampeterexile 1st Mar 2007 06:30

RAF Harrier from Kinloss:confused: :confused:

blackpants 1st Mar 2007 07:43

If I remember correctly 20R were up there on Ex.

Mad_Mark 1st Mar 2007 07:53


RAF Harrier from Kinloss :confused: :confused:
You never heard of detachments ampeterexile :confused:

lampeterexile 1st Mar 2007 07:59

Only 27 years worth, including 8 years on Harrier, 8 years on Tornado, 6 years on Hercs. Never went to Kinloss though:ok: :ok:

Dan Gerous 1st Mar 2007 11:01

According to the Scottish Daily Mail today, both pilots were travelling at just under 1000MPH. Those sonic booms must have sounded great in there. :rolleyes:

Rigex 1st Mar 2007 11:56

Just asking
The instrumentation aboard both aircraft ....showed the "miss distance" as "1 foot, plus or minus 3 feet"!

What sort of a "miss" is 1 foot minus 3 feet?

Zoom 1st Mar 2007 14:06

Isn't airmiss the correct term. If so, it's the airhit that would worry me more.

GreenKnight121 1st Mar 2007 22:02

"plus or minus 3 feet" is the accuracy error margin of the instrumentation of the two aircraft when compared to each other and to ground references.

Ginseng 1st Mar 2007 23:53

Zoom
 
"Airmiss" is redundant.

The buzz word now is "Airprox" - by definition, a situation where a pilot or controller perceives the normal acceptable safety margins to have been eroded. It doesn't necessarily follow that an actual risk of collision existed.

Regards

Ginseng

DummyRun 2nd Mar 2007 03:05

Sorry Guys,

Lost me a bit here,

What's an exercise ?

Load moving.......


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