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Lyneham Lad 6th Jan 2007 21:07

Motion: This Government is imperilling the UK
 
OK, call me naive but................

The motion raised is that the current Government of the United Kingdom is by the nature of it's policies and funding of the Armed Services in all respects, either by design or by consequence, putting the future safety and defence of the Realm in jeopardy.

All those in agreement - do we raise a petition, wait for a coup d'etap or emigrate?

Seriously, how on earth do we mitigate against further damage to the UK's ability to defend and feed itself? Clearly waiting for Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition to do something constructive is sadly entirely a waste of time. Perhaps it is down to Ppruners to take the lead..........

Oh no, a black Reliant Robin has just pulled up outside - I may be gone for some time......

Edited to put back carriage breaks for readability

will fly for food 06 6th Jan 2007 21:11

I ve been racking my brains for months thinking how i may help resolve this situation in some way. Firstly i support the troops and would buy a beer if i met one in a bar and i if meet one in uniform i would shake their hand.

An online petition does sound like a step forward.

newt 6th Jan 2007 21:12

I second the motion !!

Can I be in charge of the firing squad?

Who would be first on the Ppruners list?

Always_broken_in_wilts 6th Jan 2007 21:32

Good grief..............wot a load of old bolleaux.

If you are in and don't like it stop whinging, PVR and f@ck off and organise your coup:ugh: and leave the rest of us to crack on with the jobs in hand.

If you are a civvie please feel free to sympathise but please leave it at that as all serving folk are happy enough to take the queens shilling so must be content with their lot:ok:

will fly for food 06 6th Jan 2007 21:37

I have PVR'd.

Lyneham Lad 6th Jan 2007 21:42


Originally Posted by Always_broken_in_wilts (Post 3054571)
If you are in and don't like it stop whinging, PVR and f@ck off

ABIW - such an erudite turn of phrase. A glass of red too many this evening perchance? :hmm:

Do you really consider that the current policies of this Government and their funding of the Armed Services are NOT damaging the ability of this country (now and in the future) to defend and feed itself?

ShyTorque 6th Jan 2007 21:42

If I were still serving, I would be a little careful about posting on this topic before reading MAFL, or whatever it might be called these days. Seriously. :=

nigegilb 6th Jan 2007 21:46

Chill out ST, LL said coup d'etap which in case you are not aware is a parachute training school in Pau, France. Besides the guys on arrse call for a coup every week. It is standard practice in the third term of a Labour Govt.:eek:

An Teallach 6th Jan 2007 21:49


All those in agreement - do we raise a petition, wait for a coup d'etap or emigrate?
Coup D'Etat? Don't make me laugh! The Armed Forces aren't strong enough nowadays. With a surprise attack and a following wind, the AF may be able to take Devon and perhaps even hold it for a couple of weeks. :}

Always_broken_in_wilts 6th Jan 2007 21:54

LL

Try reading all my post fella. I take it you are happy enought to spend your wage packet at the end of each month..............yes? Then stop bleating and crack on with it as the rest of us do:ok:

Of course if it's that bad, as I suggest you could always PVR.........let us know when you do:yuk:

maximo ping 6th Jan 2007 21:59

ABIW; now thinking as far as a month ahead? You'll go far m'lad, just the sort of strategic thinking that we've been missing for so long...:ugh:

Always_broken_in_wilts 6th Jan 2007 22:07

Max,

Sorry fella but after 32 years in you are going to have to expand on your post for this old chap:rolleyes:

maximo ping 6th Jan 2007 22:13

Fair point mate, one does get used to the same myopic point of view from those above, and we do all have the chance to vote with our feet.
Doesn't mean you have to do their ill-considered work for them though...

ShyTorque 6th Jan 2007 22:15


Originally Posted by nigegilb (Post 3054593)
Chill out ST, LL said coup d'etap which in case you are not aware is a parachute training school in Pau, France. Besides the guys on arrse call for a coup every week. It is standard practice in the third term of a Labour Govt.:eek:

Yes, but I don't think this government can spell, either.
On Arrse, they were possibly asking for a chicken house.

P.s. I saw the light and chilled out many years ago, but this government will always be on the lookout for someone else to hang for blame.

ratty1 6th Jan 2007 22:19


Originally Posted by ShyTorque (Post 3054639)

but this government will always be on the lookout for someone else to hang for blame.

Well they started with Saddam I guess.

ShyTorque 6th Jan 2007 22:29

I think they were still blaming the conservatives well into their second term as "the previous government" until it was pointed out that they themselves were the previous government.

I blame the voters.

Whirlygig 6th Jan 2007 22:38

Don't blame me luv - I didn't vote for them!

Cheers

Whirls

ratty1 6th Jan 2007 22:44

You can also blame those that couldn't be bothered to get off their plump behinds and vote.......................Also Tone made sure that most of the Army couldn't vote due to the rule change in Proxy voting. Very sneaky.

MaxReheat 6th Jan 2007 22:45

Lyneham Lad
This must be tele-apathy. After reading so many articles in recent weeks documenting not only the insideous neutering of the UK's armed forces but also the general decline in the nation's overall moral and social structures, brought about by this disgraceful man, Bliar, I was going to kick off a thread along similar lines but thought it too radical to raise the matter of 'coups'.
However, when I was a stude back in the mid/late seventies and the nation was on the point of collapse under yet another hopeless Labour administration, I recall that there was a lot of 'talk' at the time about the great disquiet in the Services about the way the country was heading which was, at the time, directly down the tubes. Bear in mind that the Services were doing quite well materiel-wise (though not in pay) and the Cold War was in full swing so no shortage of Chieftains and Type 42s. I played a rugby match at Camberley and in post-match chat in the Mess I asked what the view amongst the then staff college students was. Understandably, the deepest thoughts of the Army's brightest weren't all disclosed to a visiting student but it seemed quite clear that 'change' had been discussed in some quarters.
While the economy might be holding up, according to Broon, everything else about this country has declined into a morasse of New Labour mediocraty under Bliar. His legacy will be the utter and complete devastation of everything that used to be worth living in this country for. I hope that the ballot box will do the job, sooner rather than later.

FJJP 7th Jan 2007 08:01

Coups are a feature of third world countries.

Oh, Oh.....


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