IOT salary
 

From the careers website....
"Graduates entering as commissioned officers may be offered enhanced promotion and can expect higher salaries"

You do get a higher rate of pay during IOT (Well at least graduates used to!) to balance out the fact you have a student loan to pay off for example. You will also after graduation uni graduates tend to become a Fg Off compared to your straight out of school mates who will be APOs.

There is generally a pay breakdown in the bumpf from the AFCO. I don't have it to hand and what I do have it out of date and unlikely to be of much help, but generally after tax, non-graduates were on around £800/month and graduates approx £1000ish/month. This may have well changed with the new IOT as I believe they no longer have the Student Officer/Officer Cadet divides.

I stand to be corrected as I believe my info is out of date :}

It's been almost 10 years since I went through Sleaford Tech, but I went through as a graduate. All the graduates were commissioned on entry to IOT and were Student Officers, effectively paid as Plt Offs. The non-grads were commissioned at the end of IOT and were paid a lower rate - probably more akin to an SAC's pay level, I didn't pay too much attention to how much they were on.

That was way back then, can't see it having changed, certainly in principle. If they want to attract high quality graduates to join up, they have to renumerate them accordingly otherwise they'll all go to the private sector.

The relevant payscales at the moment

Fg Off and below ------Daily ---Annual
Level 1 (Officer Cadet) 38.03 --13,881.00

Level 5 (Plt Off) -------60.11 --21,940.20

I'm just wondering who these 'high quality graduates' are and where we employ them? I also wonder what the difference is between a 'high quality' one and the rest. Seems the line was 'graduate' and Underwarer Basketweaving was as valid as Physics in the majority of cases :E

You mean they pay the U/T commissioned master-race when they go through the Sleaford Comp?

Quote: There is no qualified entry to the Flying, Regiment or Provost Branches and no qualified entry for civillians to the Engineer Branch.
Certainly not the case for at least one of those branches which welcomes civilian experience: I went through as a SO on Fg Off pay and seniority from day 1 due to this.

Oh I don't know, I enjoyed every penny of the extra graduate pay during IOT :}

Which one? The Eng Branch policy changed about 2 years ago; beofre that people with non-graduate qualifications and appropriate experince were eligible for qualified entry. I don't know the history of the other 2 branches (or to be pedantic, specialisationsd of the Ops Spt Branch), I simply went by what it says in the AP. However, looking further I note it also says people with more than 3 years suitable experience may be given 2 years seniority and comissioned on entry as Fg Offs. I suppose there's some admin reason for not calling that qualified entry - it's case-by-case rather than based on a defined qualification.

Agreed. I had not read the AP so assumed 'suitable experience' equated to 'qualified'; but the main point is, as you say, that there is on a case-by-case basis some (minor) latitude in joining ranks and pay.

When I left the RAF at the end of 1985 after 19.25 years' service I was being paid (inc flying pay) about £440 less than a Level 5 (Plt Off). Blimey!

But it's sadder than that - I still have my very first payslip somewhere, for £21 gross, £18.10.0 nett for the month. The youngsters of today ...... etc, etc.

Do you have the Mess bill to go with it? I've only once seen a Mess bill greater than the same month's salary; a young, newly-graduated APO on the JROC who had his Grad Ball payment carried forward with the Honington Xmas function...

I don't think we had pay slips. At £18 per month gross it wasn't worth printing them :}

£108 in my first month's pay at BRNC as a snotty. £2,600 annual. Mrs T got in a year later, gave the Forces the 33% the AFPRB said we were due, add on a seniority pay rise and fly trg pay, and my pay went up to £4,500 almost overnight. The Yorkshire (and later the Cornish) brewers laughed all the way to the bank :ok:

They pay cadets?

Bridge,

I thought that you were worried about getting in - never mind the salary!

Duncs

The bad news about my 'getting in' came after I had already posted the question about salary. I foolishly felt that I had performed quite strongly during the 4day period - clearly I was incorrect!

:eek: You mean they get paid to swan about all day in grow bags, sometimes climb into an aircraft and rag it around the sky and kill people on horses. Make an excuse not to fly if it is a risky task. Go to parties and bore everyone that they are a pilot and tell crap war stories. Sit about and always on the internet? Where do I join?:8

Faithless

Tacky jibe about killing people on horses.

Only those who can't stay on their horse are ever killed.

CG

Thought someone might say that and to be honest, I'm not entirely sure these days!:\ If I had anything to say about it, I would probably class 'high quality' as 2.1 upwards in one of the more traditional / rigorous subjects. But I suppose it's all reletive really - would you rather have someone with a 1st in English from Aberystwth or a 3rd in Mech Eng from Cambridge?

And whilst I do take your point about the differences between a Physics degree and an Underwater Basket Weaving course, as long as students have used their uni time productively, have learnt to think critically for themselves and picked up bit of life experience so they aren't completely wet behind the ears when they pitch up on day 1 then I wouldn't complain too much.