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Wee Weasley Welshman 11th Nov 2006 22:18

Royal Albert Hall
 
Just finished. Bloody good show. All involved. Very moving.

WWW

Wycombe 11th Nov 2006 23:05

Yep, agreed, the "muster" from those currently serving looked a bit thin though didn't it - can't think why that might be :rolleyes:

Not quite sure why they had to jazz-up "Abide With Me" in that fashion though - not very traditional.

Apart from that, yes it was very well done.

WE Branch Fanatic 11th Nov 2006 23:14

The feature on the injured Ammunition Technical Officer was very well done, bringing home the stark reality of the human cost.

EODFelix 12th Nov 2006 01:28

Yep, Pete Norton - couple of intakes after mine. Received an email from him just b4 he went out.

WIWOWessex 12th Nov 2006 14:07

I agree totally, the whole occasion was very moving. The muster was, as usual, crisp and well drilled, a tribute to those who took part and organised the ceremony. Well done the Royal British Legion.It was just a pity that the discipline and well practised drill was not matched by the Chiefs of Staff at the Cenotaph today, what a shambles!!! They should be ashamed of themselves. The vast majority of the civilians involved put in a better performance... at least they were in step!!!

Roland Pulfrew 12th Nov 2006 16:21


Originally Posted by Wycombe (Post 2958655)
Yep, agreed, the "muster" from those currently serving looked a bit thin though didn't it - can't think why that might be :rolleyes:
Not quite sure why they had to jazz-up "Abide With Me" in that fashion though - not very traditional.

I thought that the muster was exceptionally thin. If ever there was evidence of the forces being overstretched this was it. The TA must have made up the majority of the service personnel present on the floor (no slight or insult to the TA intended before anyone accuses me of doing so)!! I actually thought the muster somewhat embarrassing - but then I am also pleased because it might give a hint to the politicians that we are overstretched, despite what our senior officers might say, but I guess the Bliars didn't even notice.:ugh:

Anyone know if it is traditional for CDS to be present in the PM's box?

gar170 12th Nov 2006 16:35


Originally Posted by Roland Pulfrew (Post 2959410)
I thought that the muster was exceptionally thin. If ever there was evidence of the forces being overstretched this was it. The TA must have made up the majority of the service personnel present on the floor (no slight or insult to the TA intended before anyone accuses me of doing so)!! I actually thought the muster somewhat embarrassing - but then I am also pleased because it might give a hint to the politicians that we are overstretched, despite what our senior officers might say, but I guess the Bliars didn't even notice.:ugh:

Anyone know if it is traditional for CDS to be present in the PM's box?

I don't think these idiots that we vote for every 4 yrs would notice if the taliban moved into no 10 they would still say that the forces are not overstretched

Chugalug2 12th Nov 2006 17:15


Originally Posted by WIWOWessex (Post 2959264)
well practised drill was not matched by the Chiefs of Staff at the Cenotaph today, what a shambles!!! They should be ashamed of themselves. The vast majority of the civilians involved put in a better performance... at least they were in step!!!

Just watched the rerun on the Beeb, and yes you are right, the first time their drill has been open to criticism. To be fair though, the only one in step was the CAS and did you know he has over 4000 hours in fast jets? Said in hushed and respectful tones by Dimbleby, so it must be true!

Flatus Veteranus 12th Nov 2006 17:27

I thought that both the RAH and Cenotaph ceremonies were excellent, and Auntie Beeb's coverage was to the usual high standard. My only comment is that Dimplebum might have identified the lady who carried a wreath to the Cenotaph next to Tony Bliar. I believe it was the Kiwi PM, in London for the opening of the Kiwi war memorial in Hyde Park.

Chugalug2 12th Nov 2006 18:02


Originally Posted by Flatus Veteranus (Post 2959482)
I thought that both the RAH and Cenotaph ceremonies were excellent, and Auntie Beeb's coverage was to the usual high standard. My only comment is that Dimplebum might have identified the lady who carried a wreath to the Cenotaph next to Tony Bliar. I believe it was the Kiwi PM, in London for the opening of the Kiwi war memorial in Hyde Park.

Yes, you are right FV she was, and Dimbleby did at one point say so, also later explaining that NZ was not represented in the Commonwealth Laying of Wreaths as she had already done so. Despite my above comments, the Cenotaph ceremony was if anything more moving than usual. I was OK until I saw those very young kids marching by with their mum, and they were wearing their dad's medals. Very smart and so proud. Fair cracks you up doesn't it?

vecvechookattack 12th Nov 2006 18:48

Dimplebum also mentioned that this is the 25th Anniversary of teh Falklands Campaign...hmmmmmmmmm

Pontius Navigator 12th Nov 2006 20:00


Originally Posted by vecvechookattack (Post 2959583)
Dimplebum also mentioned that this is the 25th Anniversary of teh Falklands Campaign...hmmmmmmmmm

Perhaps that is why he was so respectful of the CAS's hours as maths may not be his strong point.

Agree with all the posts above. Didn't the veterans display superb marching skills. Good training, you don't forget.

gravity victim 12th Nov 2006 20:19

I was very proud to watch my daughter singing with her school choir at the Albert Hall (red robes, with RN square collars). However she confirmed that during rehearsal that awful electric guitar riff in 'Abide with Me' had everybody in fits of disbelieving laughter. Also, there was some booing as Mme Blair arrived.

effortless 12th Nov 2006 20:56

I'm sorry but I thought that the Band of the Royal Marines sounded like some spam drum majorette parade. Tin hat ready for incoming.

Yeller_Gait 12th Nov 2006 21:03

Cenotaph
 
Perhaps Sky got it right, excellent coverage, correctly identified Helen Clark and got the 25th of the Falklands as next year.

Very moving ceremony all told.

Y _G

4fitter 12th Nov 2006 21:20

RAH - yes as always moving. Also very empty compared to previous years. Didn't mind the RM showing off their musical versatility. Still feel it was hijacked by 'celebs' with no real Service - Chris de Burgh excepted.

Mrs 4f and I had a domestic as she feels very strongly about RAH - she attended a number of years ago - and I reminded her that my numerous years service compared to hers made my view more relevant - wrong move !

brit bus driver 12th Nov 2006 21:59

Was it just me, or did CAS set off with the final echelon of ambassadors/high commisiioners before being piulled back by CGS?
Might have been me as I was trying to relay the gravitas of the occasion to my two-year old. Start 'em early on something this important I say. Echo the previous sentiments of a most moving ceremony.

Kitbag 12th Nov 2006 22:11

4fitter, have I missed something, does CdB actually have some mil service hidden away, or is he, like most of his generation, merely related to someone with military service?

PPRuNe Pop 13th Nov 2006 06:14

I made it a point this year to have my two grandchildren with me to watch. My 10 year old grandson was very keen to understand why all those all taking part were not all military. He does now.

John Nicol looked very smart.

As for the Chiefs, words fail.

Pontius Navigator 13th Nov 2006 06:55

Especially impressive were all the heads of State, I mean the lines of HOS. They moved as one, as if they had been drilled by the Brigade of Guards.



On second thoughts, they probably had.


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