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eyespied 11th Nov 2006 16:26

Mind the Door.......
 
It seems that a new Merlin may have been Cat5 in Belize last week. It was being delivered to Belize on a C17 and when it was being offloaded the Loadmaster dropped the door onto it. There is no way to stop or reverse once started. Ouch! Awaiting comment from ABIW in defence.....

Echo 5 11th Nov 2006 18:05

Couldn't have been Wilts, him being a J person ;)

TacEval Inject 11th Nov 2006 18:28

A new Merlin? Crikey! Shouldn't this be linked to the 'More Merlins' thread then? And there I was thinking they were all a few time zones east. What's it doing over there (apart from being dinked)?

TI

eyespied 11th Nov 2006 18:31

I believe it was going to be used for SAR duties...

ATCO17 11th Nov 2006 19:09

I believe there was an incedent with one of the "new" Chinooks about six years ago. I heard that whilst being offloaded at Bristol docks, the shear pin on the towing arm did exactly what it said on the tin. Unfortunately, the aircraft had been inhibited against corrosion during the voyage and the brakes failed to operate, resulting in a fair bit of damage when it collided with the tractor. :D

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! 11th Nov 2006 19:34


Shouldn't this be linked to the 'More Merlins' thread then?
...or should it instead start a new thread called 'Less Merlins'?

Faithless 11th Nov 2006 21:01

It will need some Magic to keep himself in a Job after that then!!:=

High_lander 11th Nov 2006 21:07

I have it on good authority(:8), that no structural damage was caused to the a/c.

Echo 5 12th Nov 2006 06:56


Originally Posted by High_lander (Post 2958535)
I have it on good authority(:8), that no structural damage was caused to the a/c.

Which.........the C17 or the Merlin or neither ?

November4 12th Nov 2006 12:52

Good job the C17 has to have the Movers loading under the direction of the ALM.........:eek:

JNo 12th Nov 2006 15:54


Originally Posted by eyespied (Post 2958173)
It seems that a new Merlin may have been Cat5 in Belize last week.

Nope

Originally Posted by High_lander (Post 2958535)
no structural damage was caused to the a/c.

Affirm

AT Mov 12th Nov 2006 16:26


Originally Posted by November4 (Post 2959179)
Good job the C17 has to have the Movers loading under the direction of the ALM.........:eek:

Indeed, Movers team leader reading from the tie down scheme says ' next lower the ramp', The ALM lowers the door.

Thanks for all the leadership Mr ALM.

vecvechookattack 12th Nov 2006 17:42

Why are we using C17's to transport Merlins to Belize? Very strange.

movadinkampa747 12th Nov 2006 19:11


Originally Posted by vecvechookattack (Post 2959504)
Why are we using C17's to transport Merlins to Belize?

Because it wont fit into a Hercules is my guess:sad:

Twopack 12th Nov 2006 19:36


Originally Posted by vecvechookattack (Post 2959504)
Why are we using C17's to transport Merlins to Belize? Very strange.




Maybe because they can't fly there direct?? :\

movadinkampa747 12th Nov 2006 19:40

Nothing wrong with that. Think of all the night stops they are missing out on. Gander, Tampa.......................

GipsyMagpie 12th Nov 2006 19:50

Obvious
 
Why use a C17 to take a Merlin to Belize??? Why on earth would you want to waste tens of valuable aircraft flying a Merlin across the top of the atlantic to get all the way down the States to Belize (and back!!)! Use a C17 and go direct. Shame the C17 load-"master" was blind.

And think about it. Lots of Brit troops go to Belize to train in the jungle. Why not aircrew? They need Jungle training too!

And it wouldn't be a "new" Merlin. They are not even in service yet (if they ever will be).

movadinkampa747 12th Nov 2006 21:31

Yes I guess you are correct after all there a some pretty big jungles in Iraq and Afg.

London Mil 13th Nov 2006 05:16

I am led to believe that the Merlin was on a super-secret Bin Liner hunting mission. :eek: :eek: None of this jungle training malarkey.

Sorry, Monday morning and trying to pull myself out of that weekly bout of depression. :uhoh:

RODF3 13th Nov 2006 07:41


Originally Posted by vecvechookattack (Post 2959504)
Why are we using C17's to transport Merlins to Belize? Very strange.

What would you use to transport Merlins to Belize? They are there on Ex and the quickest way is by air.

TMJ 13th Nov 2006 08:36


Originally Posted by Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! (Post 2958412)
...or should it instead start a new thread called 'Less Merlins'?

<pedant>Fewer Merlins...</pedant>

eyespied 15th Nov 2006 21:59

HiyaLander - How is the intact Merlin doing? Surely it must have gained a new brow courtesy of the C17 door or is it that tough?

High_lander 16th Nov 2006 21:11

Not sure, but apparantly, the damage was negligabubble (sic) to both A/C.

There has always been a bit of annoyance of the position of the buttons on the C-17, i.e.

Door Close

Ramp Down


Too close together.

TheWizard 16th Nov 2006 22:09

Homeward Bound
 
It's coming home soon for other reasons... in the back of a C17!! Hope it's not the same loading team (and yes that includes the Loadmaster before any movers get excited)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! 17th Nov 2006 02:28

TMJ - touche, though perhaps in this case . . . less Merlin



Why are we using C17's to transport Merlins to Belize?
oddly enough, I saw a TV prog once that said Belize was the car theft capital of a very large area. They get stolen in the southern states and driven down there. Apparently it's so bad that if you were to check the VIN of official vehicles, many of them would come back as stolen.

That being said, maybe a C17 isn't necessary afterall, just a little creative parking...

RotatingPart 17th Nov 2006 17:02

Never let the truth get in the way of a good rumour...
 
eyespied,

you're quite correct, the C-17 loadie did have a bit of "finger trouble" and yes he did cause a teeny weeny bit of damage to the tail section of said Merlin. The aircraft isn't Cat 5'd, infact, the tail has been fixed. :) It is in Belize to support the Battle Group currently on Ex. Tropical Storm...

..Or at least it would be if they hadn't found that the internal workings of the main rotor gearbox are corroded! :bored: I'm led to believe that the aircraft they sent over here had spent a considerable amount of time in the hanger. As the rotating parts within the gearbox had not rotated for some time, they lacked that certain protection that oh, say, oil might have given them against any nasty bits of moisture getting in there.:ugh:

It has flown (once). And the boys (and girls) have been all over it trying to sort things out. I hope their efforts will not be in vain. I fear the Army may try and nick the TV screens out of the front if it sits around much longer:eek: . Regards

RotP

HAL9000 17th Nov 2006 18:35

Pedant Alert
 
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! (Number of 'a's might be wrong),

Call me picky but that should read 'fewer' not 'less' Merlins.

Tin hat on and ready for heavy return fire.

Regards,

HAL

movadinkampa747 17th Nov 2006 19:59


Originally Posted by HAL9000 (Post 2971590)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! (Number of 'a's might be wrong),

Call me picky but that should read 'fewer' not 'less' Merlins.

Tin hat on and ready for heavy return fire.

Regards,

HAL

Try looking six posts up the page from yours. I think you have been beaten to it.:ok:

High_lander 17th Nov 2006 20:31

But why is it wrong?





Because you can't use "Less" with 'countables'.

Apparantly.


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