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Loose rivets 23rd Oct 2006 19:46

FW: F16 Bird Strike
 
Has this done the rounds? I haven't seen it, but if it has please just zap it, or I will when back to me puter.


FW: F16 Bird Strike

READ THIS -- CAREFULLY -- FIRST; THEN WATCH THE VIDEO

Then watch it again. This is split second decision making!

F-16 engine ingests bird after takeoff @ Tyndall AFB.

It is certainly interesting to see a crash from the cockpit of an airplane.

There is an instructor pilot in the rear and a student in the front seat of an F-16.

A "Bird Strike," as seen through the Heads Up Display (HUD).

One can see the bird "flash-by" just prior to impacting the engine. One can hear the aircraft voice warning system telling them they have a problem and referring to the "D-6 NL" which means there is no engine RPM.

They made 2 attempts to relight the jet engine, but evidently there was too much damage from the bird strike and they had to get out.

These guys were very cool; note the heavy breathing ... they certainly flew longer than one would expect before ejecting. Airspeed can

be observed on the HUD's upper left corner. It goes down to the low 120's as they struggle to get the engine going again, but as the plane noses over and dives to earth it increases to at least 175 just before impact.

It just goes to show how quickly your day can go to pieces - 45 seconds from strike to ejection.

All and all, not bad. The pilots ran the emergency checklist, made two relight attempts, and picked out a plowed field for impact before ejecting.

You can follow the audio attached to it and hear the conversation between the pilot and instructor pilot, and then the tower, including the pilot saying they were punching out. The tower didn't seem to completely understand the situation, and missed the significance of the last transmission. The towers last radio call -- he's talking to an empty aircraft.

The video continues until impact, even after both pilots eject. A classic "buying the farm" as you can see the plow rows get bigger. A real nice job from the aircrew by keeping their cool and turning the aircraft away from populated areas.

Double click on still pic for video




http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v7...ird_050808.jpg

Background Noise 23rd Oct 2006 19:54

It has - but it is a Hawk in Canada.

TheSailor 23rd Oct 2006 20:03

Hello,

Amazing. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/4/eek2.gif
They make the job in a oustanding way.

Regards. http://photobucket.com/albums/v509/Bebermaur/th_bye.gif

eastern wiseguy 23rd Oct 2006 20:33


Originally Posted by ASFKAP (Post 2924760)
How can you tell? All I saw was a blur and it looked a bit bigger than a hawk...



You are teasing right?? The AIRCRAFT is/was a HAWK...type and sex of bird unknown:hmm:

Miserable Old Git 23rd Oct 2006 21:21

T6NL = Hawk

The funniest thing is ATC completely misunderstanding the eject call, or maybe it’s not. Get my point?

MOG

Dan Winterland 24th Oct 2006 01:41

Yes, lots of info - some correct. But the main thing - the aircraft type is wrong. It's definately a Hawk. The "T6NL" caption is an Adour thing.

It was a Canadian Hawk 100 at Moose Jaw. Brit student, Canadian instructor. The instructor received back injuries from the ejection.

London Mil 24th Oct 2006 05:45

Can we still put that one down as an example of oustanding US airmanship? :)

Loose rivets 24th Oct 2006 05:51

Mmm...don't know who did the preamble, but it makes me realize just how much I miss flying. Mind you, the back injury thing I wouldn't wish on anyone...:(

Bob Viking 24th Oct 2006 09:32

Brilliant.
 
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story!
Did make me smile.
BV:D

Background Noise 24th Oct 2006 09:57

LR - not so bad on the modern seats, especially those with rockets as on the Hawk. Smaller bang to get you clear and then the rocket accelerates you more 'gently'. Still get some injuries but less back-breaking than the older all-bang seats.

Ewan Whosearmy 24th Oct 2006 10:54

I thought the IP's injury came not because of the ejection forces, but because the survival kit in the seat pan failed to seperate before he hit the ground?

Tombstone 24th Oct 2006 10:55

The 'stude' is on F3s now, serves him right for losing a Hawk, even if he was just following through! ;)

Not too sure about the instructor, I do hope his injuries did not keep him away from flying for too long.

Champagne Anyone? 24th Oct 2006 11:13

Bloody sneaky those Canadians.....


The accuracy of their surface to air ducks is truely impressive!! ;) ;)

Paul Wilson 24th Oct 2006 15:33

T6NL - hardly an intuitive warning, or am I missing something, a sharp contrast to the "gear not down" - can't get much clearer than that

PPRuNeUser0172 24th Oct 2006 16:56

To the original poster, were you drunk when you posted?

An f16??? As has been pointed out it is a hawk,

2 engine relight attempts??

Dont think so, the HUD is recording until impact, therefore Gen was not tripped off, ie did not press relight button.

Canadian dude broke his femur (sp??) and never flew bang seat again, stude is a top bloke who has a nice tie and although having only flown in Canada for a few weeks still had wherewithal to lower his PSP (which is not auto) whereas experienced Canuck didnt:E

High_lander 24th Oct 2006 19:30

Not sure, but I think its a Hawk:} :}



Its been on the wonderful site
http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm

I also notice that they had the "Let-off-steam" Harrier clip on there.



Infact... I posted it on here, but Tombestone told me off.
(It was in a former guise).




No I didn't goto the press:rolleyes:

Hammer Head Too 24th Oct 2006 19:32

If my memory serves me right T6NL is an dual purpose warning light/attention getter:
T6 is for the turbine temperature out of limits (too hot = melting the turbine, too cold = your engine has stopped)
NL = number of revolutions (in percent RPM) of your low pressure turbine out of limits. Adour has 2. Low pressure & high pressure (NH)
So if you are a Hawk mate then it makes as much sense as "gear not down" really
HH2

szpalko 23rd Apr 2008 00:28

take a look...
 
There is a lot of bull in the early threads, those who flew/fly the Hawk know what I am talking about. However, a very interesting thing to notice that gets missed by most: Take a look at the AoA indicator on the left. After the strike it just freezes at a very low unit (what it was pre-strike). Guess what the AoA probe is? A chunk of metal. Guess where it is? That's right, directly in front of the left hand intake! Why does the AoA indicator freeze and indicate very low units even when speed is very close to the stall AND the engine fails? You guys can figure that out. The bird might have been digestable, chunk of metal, not so yummi.
Attempted one relight ("bring it around the horn", Tutor guys....), had no chance. They pitched back on instinct, plus they were just about to do a closed right anyway.

PPRuNeUser0211 23rd Apr 2008 07:31

Good to see the author of the dit got the obligatory "kept their cool and turned it away from a populated area" in....

Just think of all the primary schools they missed!

generalspecific 23rd Apr 2008 09:44

my ignorance but always wonder what close (d?) right stop is?? Is he indicating to tower that he is going to do a tight right circuit to a full stop landing?


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