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Sunfish 1st Oct 2006 23:01

Query on Vulcan/Falklands War?
 
Question for you guys, I understand a book has been published about the Vulcan attack on the runway in the Falklands during the war. Can anyone advise author and title please?

Archimedes 1st Oct 2006 23:30

Roland White, Vulcan 607 (Bantam Press)

Subject of a thread hereabouts a while ago.

Navaleye 1st Oct 2006 23:40

I have also ordered "Island Base" its taking 6 weeks to arrive! Capn Bob's thoughts should make an interesting read.

SASless 2nd Oct 2006 01:51

Horrendous Flak over the target....searchlights...intense fighter attacks on the way in and out from the target....did they even hit the runway by chance?:E

An article on another bombing mission...for perspective.

http://www.afa.org/magazine/Nov1997/1197lineback.asp

Washington_Irving 2nd Oct 2006 03:13


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 2883507)
Horrendous Flak over the target....searchlights...intense fighter attacks on the way in and out from the target....did they even hit the runway by chance?:E

An article on another bombing mission...for perspective.

http://www.afa.org/magazine/Nov1997/1197lineback.asp

1. Fight smart, not hard.
2. Hit the runway, argentinian fast jets forced to operate at the limits of their endurance for the remainder of the conflict - mission accomplished.
3. We won our war in less than three months, including the time it took to get there- how did you guys get on? You had ten years so I'm sure it was an even bigger victory. :E

Pontius Navigator 2nd Oct 2006 07:11

SASLess, never mind the irony, thanks for the link, I have been trying to get that info before.

SASless 2nd Oct 2006 13:10

Wash,

No disrespect meant....but after months of reading about the "great contribution" the Vulcan provided during the Falklands....I felt a bit of "perspective" would be useful.

As to Vietnam, imagine if we had done the B-52 thing from Day 1....and not pissed about with LBJ's message sending. If one thinks about it....we bombed our allies and never invaded the north...which seems an ass backwards way of fighting a war.


Pontius,

Having seen some B-52 strikes from way too close....they are in all correct usage of the word simply "awesome". To imagine 80+ of the things raining down bombs on the same target simply begs the imagination. In those days, they could carry up to 80,000 pounds of bombs each.

dakkg651 2nd Oct 2006 13:31


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 2884229)
Wash,



Pontius,

Having seen some B-52 strikes from way too close....they are in all correct usage of the word simply "awesome". To imagine 80+ of the things raining down bombs on the same target simply begs the imagination. In those days, they could carry up to 80,000 pounds of bombs each.

Or in other words the same bomb load as four Lancasters or twenty B17s

brickhistory 2nd Oct 2006 13:46


Originally Posted by dakkg651 (Post 2884266)
Or in other words the same bomb load as four Lancasters or twenty B17s

Absolutely! That's of course, assuming either of those birds was doing it at 400+kts at 30,000 ft..............

SASless 2nd Oct 2006 13:54

...and shooting down Mig 21's while dodging flocks of SAM's.:ok:

ORAC 2nd Oct 2006 14:03

B-52D with Big-Belly mod carried 84 x 500lbs or 42 x 750lbs internal. External pods carried another 24 of either. Max load, therefore, 42K + 16K = 58K. Not sure if it was rounded up or bullets ´n chaff, but max weapon load was 60K.

The B-36 had a max bomb load of 84,000 lb..........

Skunkerama 2nd Oct 2006 14:06

Come on thats like comparing the Spit with a camel.

The B52 is the most capable and awesome High altitude heavy bomber in the world, but it was designed long after the B-17 and the Lanc.

I'm sure that if designers were requested to that they could now design something ridiculous that would carry 160,000lbs of ordnance.

Wader2 2nd Oct 2006 14:32


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 2884330)
B-52D with Big-Belly mod carried . . . or 42 x 750lbs internal.

The same as the Victor but not as fast.

GlosMikeP 2nd Oct 2006 14:41


Originally Posted by Skunkerama (Post 2884336)
Come on thats like comparing the Spit with a camel.

The B52 is the most capable and awesome High altitude heavy bomber in the world, but it was designed long after the B-17 and the Lanc.

If you put dates on those 4 aircraft, you'll find the gaps between them aren't as big as you might think at first. The real difference in capability and aspiration was the jet engine.

forget 2nd Oct 2006 15:35

...........One last time - the RAF DID NOT MISS THE RUNWAY.

Could've done better - but they didn't miss it:ok:


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...as/STANLEY.jpg

Skunkerama 2nd Oct 2006 15:41

Bet the sheep in the ajoining field were terrified.

steamchicken 2nd Oct 2006 15:47

Skunk: I'll have you know they took great care to protect the civilian population!

SASless 2nd Oct 2006 15:53

My eyesight is not what it used to be....but do I see just the one single hit on the runway?

Skunkerama 2nd Oct 2006 15:56

Sasless, your using too much chum.

SASless 2nd Oct 2006 16:14

Mike,

Looking at the bomb string on the earlier map....I would think a precision bombing attack would have straddled the runway about midpoint in the string vice only at one end or am I missing the point vice the bomb dropper?

Nice string of bombs at the West end of the runway in this photo.




http://www.raf.mod.uk/falklands/images/cas039.jpg


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