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backseatjock 29th Sep 2006 20:42

Mra4 At Eglin
 
One of the new BAE Systems Nimrod MRA4s is having a six week holiday in Florida having touched down at Eglin AFB after its first transatlantic hop earlier today.

During its six week deployment, the type's first outside Europe, the airraft and its systems will be subjected to environmental trials, undergoing a series of climatic tests in extreme temperatures, ranging from -40C to +45C.

The trials are being undertaken at the US DoD's McKinley Climatic Laboratory, the largest facility of its kind in the world, which will allow testing at any temperature and with engines running.

Engineers are due to test systems integrity in conditions ranging from the bitter cold of Alaska to dry desert heat of Arizona and will run simulations of day/night cycles as well as testing under high humidity and solar radiation conditions.

A team of 45 personnel, drawn mainly from BAE Systems, but including RAF, MoD, DPA, DQAG and QinetiQ have flown out to support the testing.

This is by far the most challenging deployment undertaken by the MRA4 to date and should go some way to demonstrating the maturity and reliability of the platform's systems at extremes of temperature.

boyassassin 29th Sep 2006 20:46

During its six week deployment, the type's first outside Europe, the airraft and its systems will be subjected to environmental trials, undergoing a series of climatic tests in extreme temperatures, ranging from -40C to +45C.
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Surely that temp range will limit the aircraft, given the extremes of temps in the current theatres of operation?? :confused:

movadinkampa747 29th Sep 2006 20:48


Originally Posted by backseatjock (Post 2880126)
-40C

???????? Florida. Sounds like an excuse for a holiday to me.

airborne_artist 29th Sep 2006 20:51

Still a bit humid there, and the hurricane season is in full flow. Bad planning. Dec through April is best in FL.

Only time I went there for Betty was in July - 110 during the day, but ice cold in the air-conned night clubs come sundown :E

L J R 29th Sep 2006 21:37

I hope they personally asked a 2* to approve the travel

BEagle 29th Sep 2006 21:46

Oh Eglin! Sorry, thought you'd written Elgin!

Hoots 29th Sep 2006 21:54

The old and the new were parked up beside each other for a few hours at Brunswick the other night. The wing and engines sure look a lot bigger closer up. I would have thought by now that it could have made Eglin in one hop, guess they are still working on the endurance or AUW side of things.

BossEyed 29th Sep 2006 22:18


Originally Posted by movadinkampa747 (Post 2880135)
???????? Florida. Sounds like an excuse for a holiday to me.

Undoubtedly. A 'climatic laboratory' is unlikely to be anything other than a plush waiting room for Hooters. It even has hot and cold running barmaids. :8

If only the Amesbury Sauna was big enough for the party supplies of beer and buffalo wings...

Two's in 29th Sep 2006 22:21

You can't help thinking that if it was Llanbedr and not Florida, it might not have taken 45 personnel to watch it go through a shake and bake chamber. Still thank goodness Joe Taxpayer isn't picking up the tab on this one - Oh wait a minute...

TWnotAT 30th Sep 2006 15:17

Sorry we missed you lot in Brunswick. We had retired to the bar when you came in for QTR. :rolleyes:
For info, the aircraft behaved impeccably well during the 3 days transit out, via Lajes, Brunwick to Eglin. :D
Remember it is still early days in the test prog. and some of the fuel tanks are not cleared for use yet. (We are already approaching/passing MR2 endurance, so you will need hammocks and pillows by the time all the fuel tanks are in use!) Navigation requirements meant we couldn't hop the pond in 1 go.

Still, it's nice to go back to old haunts. Did anyone get a piccie of the MR2 sat beside the MRA4?

Dimmer Switch 30th Sep 2006 15:28


Hoots : I would have thought by now that it could have made Eglin in one hop
Can you imagine how much food that'd have needed !!!!!!:confused:

althenick 30th Sep 2006 17:16


Oh Eglin! Sorry, thought you'd written Elgin!
Me too BEagle I was begining to think that the Buccaneer Service Station had got itself another "Gate Gaurd" :hmm:

Hoots 1st Oct 2006 19:39

TWnotAT

some of the guys took some piccies at Brunswick, although the light was starting to fade. Thanks for answering my question regarding fuel, sure looks an impressive beast. Good luck with the testing.

RileyDove 1st Oct 2006 19:42

Can't help but think the 9 1/2 hour journey non stop to Sanford (Orlando) seems a sprint in comparison to the Mighty Hunter's three days ! Are there some good places to spend rates or something?

TWnotAT 2nd Oct 2006 23:32

RileyDove,

...not fuel constraints as such..navigation constraints that still remain within our flight test limits.
Remember this was the first time the MRA4 had been let loose over the pond. Given a little bit more time there will be a sharp increase in range and versatility of the aircraft.

You take for granted the operating envelope of the MR2. All new aircraft have to be carefully extended through a prolonged test environment to ensure we safely approach the design limits of the aircraft (airframe and sensors). It doesn't happen overnight, but I can assure you it is gathering pace and before long the MR2 will look rather dated in comparison.

Can't wait to see you guys after a 14+ hour trip!

ComJam 3rd Oct 2006 12:58

Beags

The -40c bit is quite easy to achieve in Elgin, not sure about +40 though :}

ORAC 3rd Oct 2006 13:14


navigation constraints that still remain within our flight test limits
So who forgot to pack the sextant....

TWnotAT 4th Oct 2006 01:47

hehe,

Sextant, Morse key...all gone i'm afraid :eek:

We have to rely on numerous GPS/INS, and other modern methods!

Anyone got any pics of them both together?

Charlie Luncher 5th Oct 2006 00:33

DS
14 hours and a probe is just silly you will need a trailer to carry the extra Mars Bars and sugary lard balls.
13 hours is bad enough as all the fruit and salad (sp?) goes off so you have to eat the proper stuff:ok: .
Were you the RAF officer quoted during Fanrborough ref curry :D
Charlie sends

Dimmer Switch 5th Oct 2006 06:37

Charlie,

You know me, rarely ever forward of the galley (all that complicated kit makes me nervous), so of course I take a keen interest :ok:

Also, on the first point, they do King Sized Mars bars now :)


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