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Gnd 1st Nov 2006 17:45

Good Luck
 
I guess that Sideshow Bob will be a side show soon enough, he is bound to end up on the ground with such an ignorant attitude. OC Ops, bitter and twisted seems appropriate.:ugh:

saudipc-9 2nd Nov 2006 01:45

Gents,
I think Sideshow is teasing you!!!! You know.......banter!!!!!!;)

Golden Flyer 2nd Nov 2006 04:37

What are the contracts like for you military guys in the UK?

A2QFI 2nd Nov 2006 06:02

Contracts = HA HA
 
We don't have contracts, in the legally enforceable sense - we have Terms of Service which are not the same thing at all!

Sideshow Bob 2nd Nov 2006 06:44


Originally Posted by GPMG (Post 2940657)
Ahhhhh the old 'people that wear green are thick' jibe? Congratulations, you may not be stupid but you are incredibly ignorant. Mind you I guess the fact that your young and have no experience of life could be an excuse.

38 years old and 20 years service, you guess wrong :D
saudipc-9 Your right, but it's too easy with these green types, not very clever you know.

sarmonkey 2nd Nov 2006 08:21

The main issue here is being ignored, namely: if the RAF is scrapped, the RN and Army would have to find another force to try and transfer to. All the AAC chaps would try and transfer to the RN, who would be busy applying to the RAAF or any other country sensible enough to speak English and have an Air Force. The resultant chaos would decimate the Services and plunge the country into anarchy. In effect, the presence of the RAF is preserving national security saving the country from certain doom. Again.

Banter warning red: I am not being serious. I say again, I am not being serious. That is all.

Sideshow Bob 2nd Nov 2006 11:00

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=250335
GPMG
Now you see why we won't let you play with the big toys.:)

endplay 2nd Nov 2006 11:06

Come on in, the water's lovely.
 
In my not inconsiderable time in the RAF I have known many people who have transferred from the Army or Navy to the light blue (of my last 3 bosses 1 was ex dark blue and 1 ex brown) but I can't recall anyone going the other way. I don't know if there's much traffic between the other 2 Services either.

It would seem to me that people either made the right choice initially or have finally come to their senses and joined us later in life. It would make scrapping the RAF so disappointing for so many that we really should resist it on humanitarian grounds alone.

TMJ 2nd Nov 2006 12:34


Originally Posted by endplay (Post 2941964)
In my not inconsiderable time in the RAF I have known many people who have transferred from the Army or Navy to the light blue (of my last 3 bosses 1 was ex dark blue and 1 ex brown) but I can't recall anyone going the other way. I don't know if there's much traffic between the other 2 Services either.

As I said on another thread, I know a couple of EngOs who've come to the end of their short-service commission and are looking to join the Army; that's more because there aren't enough slots for them in the RAF rather than a burning desire to be in the Army though...

NVIS 2nd Nov 2006 12:48

I'll Bite
 

Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob (Post 2941951)
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=250335
GPMG
Now you see why we won't let you play with the big toys.:)

Not like the Chinny Boss who shut down one engine "pushing on" with the other, to then starve it of fuel......Never pass gas!
Or the Puma QHI who forgot to advance the ECL's after a PFL...Oops a little more thatn Cat 1 there.
We all make mistakes, get over it:ok:

VuctoredThrest 2nd Nov 2006 12:55

I know of one RAF pilot who was so taken with the Sea Harrier (who wouldn't be) that he transferred to the RN.

cynicalint 2nd Nov 2006 13:23

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/server/search/Search/show/nav.4701/pp/15/catId%5B42%5D%5B%5D/00300p004/contentType/conMediaFile/catId%5B43%5D%5B%5D/00300p/currentPage/2#

Look at the video titled 'The Unexpected'.I
f you transfer to the RN, this is what you can look forward to! At least the diver has the sense to jump out of the RN Helicopter.

The Helpful Stacker 2nd Nov 2006 15:33


Originally Posted by NVIS (Post 2942102)
Not like the Chinny Boss who shut down one engine "pushing on" with the other, to then starve it of fuel......Never pass gas!
Or the Puma QHI who forgot to advance the ECL's after a PFL...Oops a little more thatn Cat 1 there.
We all make mistakes, get over it:ok:

What about the Lynx pilot who ran out of go juice somewhere near XMG, resulting in one of his rather sheepish colleagues popping into our cosy TSW crewroom at R850 to see if a couple of us minded quietly throwing a pump, filter and hoses onto his Lynx and coming for a jolly in order that we could do an a/c to a/c refuel?

Just before Christmas too and even though we kept it strictly in-house rather than noting it in the DO log we still didn't get anything of the tight buggers for our efforts. At least floppy crews used to bring biscuits with them when they visited some of the other sites.

movadinkampa747 2nd Nov 2006 16:31


Originally Posted by The Helpful Stacker (Post 2942364)
we still didn't get anything of the tight buggers

Mus have been ex RAF Stackers.

Golden Flyer 2nd Nov 2006 20:35


Originally Posted by A2QFI (Post 2941559)
We don't have contracts, in the legally enforceable sense - we have Terms of Service which are not the same thing at all!

Why wouldnt you just answer the question since you know what I mean?:\.... Contracts, Terms of Service... TO ME, its all the same ****! Once you sign that paper, you're legally bined to it. Anyone out there that would care to answer my question, I'd be greatful....

Cheers...

Golden Flyer 2nd Nov 2006 21:28

Terms & Contract
 
A2QFI,

Check it out... "TERMS & CONTRACT":
http://www.rafcareers.com/istheraffo...conditions.cfm

diginagain 3rd Nov 2006 05:17

THS - if I may, on behalf of those portly, sweaty SNCO aircrew who forgot to thank you, thank you.

Hope you enjoyed the Bonios.

emergov 3rd Nov 2006 08:06

Wiley - wake up.
 
I am amused by the utter tosh Wiley posted in this thread. To infer that RAAF crews would not have made the same mistakes as Army crews in 1996 because of some mystical ability to resist mission creep is farcical. The accident investigation runs to hundreds of pages, and does not suggest a transfer of Army acft back to the RAAF.

The debate about Air Forces and their effectiveness is not new, and it is driven by the fact that Air Forces are expensive, and they sometimes fail to deliver the goods.
If the Navy, or the Army or the Marines are dissatisfied with the service provided, then either a) the service is inadequate, or b) they have been given unrealistic expectations. In my experience, users of aircraft don't give a rat's raspberry about the operator's problems. They just want their herc / fighter / helo / bombs on time, on target or both; and don't expect any understanding from people who aren't living in a/c or working a strict 10 hour day when you can't deliver.

Maple 01 3rd Nov 2006 10:16


What about the Lynx pilot who ran out of go juice
why has the image of The Lord Flashart just come to mind? Woof!


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