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Beeayeate 31st Jul 2006 23:33

End of an Era
 
Kemble today at approx 12:15, the last to land PR.9 (XH131) shut down in RAF service. The last three PR.9s from 39 Sqn - XH131, XH134 and XH135 - were flown in to a blustery Kemble and recieved by Falcon Air and Delta Jets.

Later in the sun, the three last Canberras sat lined up on Kemble's lazy with 39 Sqn ground crews removing various bits of kit.

http://www.canberra.plus.com/pics/demobbed.jpg

So, after 55 years in service the Queen of the Skies retires. A relatively simple aircraft, exceedingly fit for purpose in all respects, sadly, we'll not see the like in service again - nor the sort of blokes and characters that worked it and flew it in strange and exotic locations around the world.

39 Sqn's stand down doesn't just mark the end of another squadron and another aircraft type, it marks the end of a era in the history of the RAF that began on a bright morning at RAF Binbrook on 25 May 1951 - 55 years ago.

Sad? Not really. All things come to an end I guess. But damn proud to have been part of it.

:ok:

Mods . . . if you consider this would now be be more apt in the Hist&Nost forum, so be it.
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Conan the Librarian 31st Jul 2006 23:42

Have some pictures of a great and historic day and am working on them now. You are right - it was a happy day and one of celebration rather than mourning. Even the rain just about held off.

Conan

Jackonicko 1st Aug 2006 00:04

can any real insider tell us:

Which order did they land?
Who were the crews of each?
Who does each now belong to?
How many hours/cycles does each now have?

Why did they withdraw the RADEOS (the sensor that gave the Canberra its most useful capability) three years before the aircraft? Just so that a Canberra replacement would be 'easier'?

Beeayeate 1st Aug 2006 00:13

Jacko
Which order did they land?
XH134, XH135, XH131

Who were the crews of each?
XH134 - "Ernie" and "Kim"
XH131 - Dave Piper and Wg Cmdr Clive Mitchel (the 'Boss')
XH135 - unknown.

Who does each now belong to?
Check with Falcon Air. Rumours still abound.

How many hours/cycles does each now have?
Again, check with Falcon Air (or a 39 Sqn bloke). But not a lot I think.

Why did they withdraw the RADEOS (the sensor that gave the Canberra its most useful capability) three years before the aircraft? Just so that a Canberra replacement would be 'easier'?


Probably. Makes a good conspiracy theory anyway.

:rolleyes:

Jackonicko 1st Aug 2006 01:24

"But not a lot I think."

Not a lot left, you mean? Years ago all of the PR9s were close to their pressurisation cycle limit, and most were fast approaching 10,000 FH.

Thanks for the details.....

Didn't Terry Cairns fly one of them?

Rallye Driver 1st Aug 2006 07:15

A few pics.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...der/ParkLo.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...er/CrewsLo.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ider/HugLo.jpg

RD :ok:

Beeayeate 1st Aug 2006 07:36

Jacko
Not a lot left, you mean? Years ago all of the PR9s were close to their pressurisation cycle limit, and most were fast approaching 10,000 FH.
Purely my own thoughts but based on conversations with the groundcrew and others over the past couple or three years. Make of it what you will. There obviously must be some slack in the FI's and cycles otherewise astute business men wouldn't have purchased the airframes. Don't know about the Avons though.
Didn't Terry Cairns fly one of them?
No, Terry wasn't there. I see a pic of the 39 crews has now been posted.
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H Peacock 1st Aug 2006 07:47


Originally Posted by Beeayeate
Jacko

Who were the crews of each?
XH134 - "Ernie" and "Kim"
XH131 - Dave Piper and Wg Cmdr Clive Mitchel (the 'Boss')
XH135 - unknown.

Why did they withdraw the RADEOS (the sensor that gave the Canberra its most useful capability) three years before the aircraft? Just so that a Canberra replacement would be 'easier'?


Probably. Makes a good conspiracy theory anyway.

:rolleyes:

Gents, aircraft crews were:

XH134 - Flt Lt Ronnie Fairbrother + Sqn Ldr Garry Winwright.

XH135 - Flt Lt Ernie Taylor + Sqn Ldr Kim Smith.

XH131 - Sqn Ldr Dave Piper + Wg Cdr Clive Mitchell.


RADEOS was withdrawn early 05. The cost saving was used to help fund the extension of the Sqn from 31 Mar 06 to 31 Jul 06.

:)

Beeayeate 1st Aug 2006 08:03

Sorry, had Ernie and Kim in wrong aircraft.

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A2QFI 1st Aug 2006 08:04

A Great First Tour!
 
I was lucky enough to fly the PR9 when it was first used on 13 Squadron in Cyprus. It was a challenging and hugely enjoyable first tour for a very young Pilot Officer! We spent a lot of time in Bahrain covering the now largely forgotten 'First' Gulf war, when Iraq threatened to annex Kuwait in 1961. The response involved Hunters, Beverleys, and Argosies later on and loads of ground troops, obviously.
13 Squadron's other tasks included the completion of the East Africa survey, flying over Yemen operating out of Aden, daily border recce in Kuwait and routine survey tasks around the Med. Before I joined the squadron there had been some operations in the Eastern Med which, I believe, involved a PR7 being shot down. Nothing much has ever been said about this and probably for good reason!

Proman 1st Aug 2006 09:20

Cyprus 1963, NEAF, and as a (then) service brat the Canberras sometimes kept us awake at night across the bay from Aki in Paramali.

I asked my Dad what the noise was and heard 'Cameras'.

Thinking I'd misheard, I asked what they were used for. 'To take photographs', he replied. So I hadn't misheard, or so I thought.

It took me several years to work out the aerodynamics of these cameras...

:)

A2QFI 1st Aug 2006 09:27

VIP Photos at Episkopi
 
Proman
you have reminded me of another bit of nonsense which may have annoyed the locals. When there was a VIP visit at HQ NEAF they would get the visitors out onto a viewing point near the cliff edge, a PR9 would come low level across the bay and pull up, the while taking photos of the group. The a/c rushed back to Akrotiri, the film was processed and prints taken back by courier to be given to the guests after their lunch! We thought that was really sharp! Nowadays it would be done in under a minute by data link I suppose. Were you kept awake when we dropped Lepus flares in the bay at night? Not noisy but bl**dy bright!

bongof4 1st Aug 2006 09:36

OC 39 'JC'
 
Looking for JC's email address

I was in East Sale yesterday and some of them remembered you, lost your email, anyone who knows him got it?

Thengo

charlies angel 1st Aug 2006 09:48

Now with Myt :)

Conan the Librarian 1st Aug 2006 12:25

Not as happy as I would like with the quality of the pictures, but it ain't going to happen again.
Conan
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...s/_JGN6020.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...s/_JGN6048.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...s/_JGN6067.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...s/_JGN6078.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19.../JGN6078NX.jpg

falcon12 1st Aug 2006 12:43

Jacko & Beeayeate
 
Falcon Air on 01392 314054

Trumpet_trousers 1st Aug 2006 21:49


Flt Lt Ronnie Fairbrother
...ah, 'Ronnie Redsheets' himself! :E Long time no hear....

nigelb 2nd Aug 2006 13:10

Hmmm

A week or so ago, I could have sworn a Canberra flew overhead - one of these didn't by any chance head down to Duxford did it?

Nige

philrigger 2nd Aug 2006 13:43

DESTINATIONS
 
I have heard, but cannot confirm, that x2 PR9 will head down to South Africa to join the outfit that flies the Lightning and other things military and that 1 x PR9 will head for Switzerland.

'We knew how to whinge but we kept it in the NAAFI bar.'

Belle and Sebastian 2nd Aug 2006 13:45

All 3 Canberras did a round robin trip to all former bases and places that have been linked to its history. One of them probably flew over, but none of them went to Duxford as a final home.


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