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XM147 19th Jul 2006 15:34

MIG-29 at Zhukovsky
 
This is quite a video: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...97433246487433

Fox3snapshot 19th Jul 2006 17:24

:eek:

Hi corrumba! Pretty amazing piece of kit, defies a few of the more common principals of flight!

:ok:

Navaleye 19th Jul 2006 18:43

Nothing an F3 couldn't do. :eek: :hmm: :ugh:

oldbeefer 19th Jul 2006 19:22

Navaleye - nice to see you still have a sense of humour!

The Helpful Stacker 19th Jul 2006 19:26

Well an F3 could try.......:eek:

Roamer 19th Jul 2006 20:56


Originally Posted by Navaleye
Nothing an F3 couldn't do. :eek: :hmm: :ugh:

I'm guessing the F3 don't open it's canopy halfway down the runway !!!..lol

ORAC 19th Jul 2006 21:03

Pity that, in the real world, he 'd suck an AMRAAM at 30+ miles....

Still, I bet the bits fluttering down would do a few nice back flips and rolls.... :hmm:

Daifly 19th Jul 2006 21:43

It's been displaying at Farnborough all week and is fecking stunning.

Green Flash 20th Jul 2006 07:06

Displayed at RIAT and it was the dogs conkers there too. Nice idea to put the OVT and the F-18 on back to back, gave a nice contrast between the vectoring jet and a standard jet (although flown by the decidedly non-standard Ric T again!). Agreed, Mr BVR might have a wry smile on his face but I wouldn't put it past Pavel & co to out-turn it! Still, fantasmagorical piece of kit. :ok:

FlightDetent 20th Jul 2006 10:05

Hey, I'm no FJ jock, but I can land like that!:E

wub 20th Jul 2006 14:21

Here's a pic I took at Fairford on Saturday, you can see the angle of the nozzles quite clearly
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...airford524.jpg

NoseGunner 20th Jul 2006 15:52

Yes, fortunately they spent money on the F3 to make it a capable fighter, not to look good at airshows.

I know bait bitten but I can't help myself!:p

Dogfish 20th Jul 2006 19:04

Saw the dispay at Fairford and it was truly amazing. I was lucky enough to have a few words with the pilot at the hanger bash, just after he had been awarded the prize for the best display and just before the annual bread roll fight really got going. The man is as mad as a bucket of eels but he was more than willing to talk to some of the mere mortals at the party. Nice bloke,top display.:D

phil gollin 21st Jul 2006 06:48

The back-flip at about 2 mins 50 sec is just weird

Runaway Gun 21st Jul 2006 09:32

Very impressive! Was the back flip a super form of the ole' Cobra high AOA manouver?

BillHicksRules 21st Jul 2006 11:37

NG,


Originally Posted by NoseGunner
Yes, fortunately they spent money on the F3 to make it a capable fighter, not to look good at airshows.
I know bait bitten but I can't help myself!:p

Shame they failed at that too.

Cheers

BHR

Green Flash 21st Jul 2006 17:06

Dogfish

I also managed a quick chat with Mr Mig in the flight center. He seemed quiet genuinly impressed that alot of people were eagerly awaiting his display. I suppose to him it's the day job.

NoseGunner 21st Jul 2006 18:11

BHR

I don't agree with those that say that this is a forum for professional pilots and none else gets a say, but I think you should be careful of making sweeping statements on matters that squash, politics, Kilmarnock FC and a sales job really don't qualify you for.

For example I would never say that Kilmarnock are rubbish and are about as likely to play entertaining football as Bush is to go to North Korea for his summer hols - cos I'm not really qualified! :p

But hey you've made over a thousand posts so you must know what you are talking about!

BillHicksRules 21st Jul 2006 19:47

NG,


Originally Posted by NoseGunner
BHR
I don't agree with those that say that this is a forum for professional pilots and none else gets a say, but I think you should be careful of making sweeping statements on matters that squash, politics, Kilmarnock FC and a sales job really don't qualify you for.
For example I would never say that Kilmarnock are rubbish and are about as likely to play entertaining football as Bush is to go to North Korea for his summer hols - cos I'm not really qualified! :p
But hey you've made over a thousand posts so you must know what you are talking about!

Cos as my profile is that is all I have ever been and experienced, eh?

Of course you were born and Nose Gunner and have always been a Nose Gunner, eh?:ugh: :ugh:

Cheers

BHR

:) :)

NoseGunner 21st Jul 2006 21:49

Well I was trying to work out your background and you remind me of a lot of old F4 guys I've come across - but I don't think you are! Also I don't understand the Bill Hicks thing!:confused:

My point was that unless you are currently actively involved in FJ stuff and have recent experience in a field then its hard to comment on. If I may use the mighty BEagle as an example - he knows lots about lots and even used to fly an F4 (I think) but I wouldn't really value his opinion on current FJ ops. Of course, I would never dream of correcting him on matters CAA!!

On the other hand I suppose this is a rumour network and is full of people spouting on matters of which they have no idea, so maybe I should relax a little and not worry so much!:zzz:

Cheers

Conan the Librarian 21st Jul 2006 23:01

I loved the MiG display at Fairford and some fairly obscene contradictions of popular aerodynamics were in evidence. What I want to know, is how they kept the donks turning. The angle off was right through 360 degrees (twice, on the double somersault and the changes were SO abrupt) and yet the engines didn't complain or (thankfully) go a bit quiet. I am sure that there were for instance, some rueful former F-14 or F-111 drivers there, that simply do not believe what they saw. Credit, where credit is due. I think that to be the most emphatic display of care free handling that I have ever seen. The engine might not last as long as the equivalent western unit, but by G - it keeps going.

What a stunning display and thank you Mig, for bringing it here.

Conan

Green Flash 22nd Jul 2006 10:11

Conan

Does the OVT have some sort of blow-in doors above and/or below the intake trunks? Even if there is no 'ram' flow through the intakes if the hole is big enough you can suck hard! (a la hovering Harrier, etc). Dunno. Mayby the Tumansky? boys know a thing or two about donks!

wub 22nd Jul 2006 10:52

The aircraft appears to have blow-in doors above the intakes
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...irford538a.jpg

mcidiot 22nd Jul 2006 16:46


Originally Posted by wub
The aircraft appears to have blow-in doors above the intakes

Those are, I'm told, doors which enable the a/c to taxi with doors covering the in-takes closed, to prevent FOD damage on poor quality run and taxi ways

http://www.flymig.com/wallpaper/1024...iG-29.Taxi.jpg


Saying that, display :eek: was good at Farnborough yesterday
:D :D :D


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