Home to Duty - ANOTHER JPA Farce!
 

Many of us at ISK have been charged personal contribution for HTD without any HTD being paid!!! (backdated too!!). So I guess now that they think we like our work so much that we should pay for the privilege!!


Still no LSA from the last Gulf Det

No return of phone calls from JPAC!!

What is going on with this system? I wonder the press hasn't ot hold of the farce yet!!

Check your pay statements carefully guys, mine reads like a badly written draft novel with all the recoveries and credits to correct the last 2 month's worth of cock ups!!

I'm still paying garage charge on a garage I handed back to DHE is September.

DHE tell me its an RAF problem and the RAF (JPA) say its a DHE problem.:ugh:

Does anyone else have a Net Public Debt on their pay statement? It seems to be the HTD Contribution but as that is included in the deductions column it shouldn't be a 'Public Debt'

PA

If it's being deducted from your pay it's an RAF problem - they are the organisation who should be in charge of your pay account, and they are allowing DHE to debit from it.

Unfortunately, the RAF stopped being in charge of our pay accounts in 1997. Our pay accounts (and pensions and medals and casualty proceedures and JPA...) are now run by the Tri-Service AFPAA.

AFPAA website.

Climebear. True, but you are employed by the RAF, not the AFPAA. The RAF has a responsibility to pay you, which they discharge through the agency, but that does not absolve the RAF from ensuring that your pay is made correctly and on time.

The pay regs for all three services (or rather, the single pay regs as they are becoming once we all line up under JPA) state that you are responsible for the accuracy of your pay, and that any problems should be reported via Unit Administration Staff, if you have any left. Failing that, JPA Help Line once more. It's quite incredible that you can be debited the personal contribution for HTDs without HTDs being in issue. Simple coding laziness, failing to write a rule which checks this.....

Slight thread drift, but everyone must be receiving their paper statements today. Not too your home address though, 1st class post to the central registry who take 3 days to pass it on... sorry that wasn't my main point.

Has anyone out there got any idea what "GPD taxable" means. I know my HR pros don't have the foggiest. I've a feeling I'm getting stiffed to pay the tax on expenses they're claiming back, but noone seems to have the first idea.

Complete shambles. Reminds me of the phrase "I i did my job this badly, I'd be dead by now."

CBA

Mute point - who is our employer? The RAF (whose uniform we wear) or the Ministry of Defence - It is the MOD (not the RAF) that is subject of any legal action relating to our employment and it is the MOD who pays us (or not as the case may be).

I wish mate, havnt recieved a single pay statement since the introduction of JPA despite many phone calls and our unit admin staff chasing them.
Useless gits the lot of them.

Fair point WhoAreYa. I don't think you're alone either. Is anyone about to PVR willing to take one for the team and go super official? What's the name of that lawyer who always wins against the MOD? :E

CBA

How about Gross Pay to Date Taxable. This should be your total pay to date less 3 months worth of uniform allowance is about £90.25 or so based on last years rate.

Too logical?

In a civilian environment that would be a breech of employment legislation. It is a legal requirement to provide a pay slip showing gross pay and all deductions.

Gilbert Blades is your man. Tempting thought!
http://www.wilkinchapman.com/html/personnel.asp?ID=3
"He regularly appears as Advocate for service personnel before Courts Martial trials throughout the UK and overseas, including Cyprus, Germany and other parts of the world where servicemen are stationed. He also appears as Advocate before the Crown Courts, Courts of Appeal, House of Lords and the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg."
Regards.

Good guess PN, but it appears in the allowances column and is minus 170ish. Of course it's still probably more than some poor sod has been paid so far.

Pipl,

Thats the chap. Have you been making enquires?:oh:

I've been trying to find out for weeks. They first paid me GPD Taxable (over £500) in May, took it back in June and it STILL shows as a balance. No-one has been able to tell me what this is, why it was paid, why it was taken back or why it still shows as a balance. Oh and they owe me over £300 for other things screwed up since my posting in March.

I've phoned JPAC multiple times (no response - naturally), raised two SRs and submitted a complaint in writing to OC Admin. If it doesn't get fixed now, the next step is a formal complaint to AFPAA....

The sheer lack of accountability is the most galling thing - there's no one to yell at and from this end it seems nobody at the top much cares either.

SBG

SPG - no one cares because no one has the courage to put in a Redress of Complaint against how they have been treated since the introduction of JPA. Getting the papers to write a minor article doesn't work. Ministers want to know how many Formal Complaints have been received (ie Redress of Complaint), the sad point is that despite the whinging and whining on this forum non one has.

If you want something done about it, put it in writing to your CO as a Redress of Complaint. Remember this is your statutory right under the various Discipline Acts. Provided it is 'in time' and stands on its own (ie makes sense) then your CO has a duty (that he can't ignore) to investigate the complaint. If he can't resolve it then he has to refer it via his Higher Authority.

JPA online (approx) 20 Mar 06
Redress of Complaint submitted to date - NIL

Get writing chaps and chapesses or your pay etc will continue to be messed up. Next ministerial review on this issue is in the next few weeks.

WhoAreYU

Why not not write to the Inland Revenue and explain that you will be unable to fill in any tax returns until further notice as HMG are are unable (or unwilling) to send you pay statements.

I have to agree with No idea here. JPA is working perfectly well....why, because they discussed it in the House of Commons and they reported that they had received no complaints.

Guys, its no good manking and moaning on t'internet web site.... do someting about it. Write Letters, bombard your CO with Hourly e-mails, write to your MP, write to Tony Blair, write to the Queen... until the RAF start complaining about JPA nothing will happen and the RN and then the Army will suffer the same fate

CBA Caption
 

Try "Gross Public Debt Taxable".

Regards

Ginseng