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Squirrel 41 5th May 2006 09:54

New Defence Secretary -Reshuffle
 
Sky News reporting that John Reid now Home Secretary. No word on new Def Sec yet.

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AerBabe 5th May 2006 09:58

That was my first thought too! Really hope it's someone good ...

WE Branch Fanatic 5th May 2006 10:00

Sadly I doubt it.........

dallas 5th May 2006 10:02

What, you mean someone we've never heard of?

Squirrel 41 5th May 2006 10:03

New Def Sec
 
Is to be Des Browne (with an "e"), uintil today Chief Secretary to the Treasury - Gordon's number two.

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Farmer 1 5th May 2006 10:03

Well, there's always the ex-Home Secretary, of course.

The Helpful Stacker 5th May 2006 10:11

Any chance of someone with a military background, other than watching Band of Brothers of course.:rolleyes:

fantaman 5th May 2006 10:27

Labour Reshuffle
 
This from the BBC News, who will be the next defence sec???


Charles Clarke has been axed as home secretary as Tony Blair seeks to regain the initiative after a night of losses in English local elections.


He will be replaced by defence secretary John Reid. Margaret Beckett is the new Foreign Secretary, with Jack Straw becoming Commons leader. John Prescott will stay as deputy prime minister but loses his department.
At least we've got rid of that w:mad: r Reid! :ok:

airborne_artist 5th May 2006 10:27

Not sure there's any Liabour MPs with an ex-mil background? Tories have a few inc. Andrew Robathan, ex Guards and 22, and Adam Holloway, also ex Guards and 22. Holloway might be one to watch if Dave gets into #10.

Archimedes 5th May 2006 10:27

Des Browne will now have the delights of trying to operate within the financial constraints that he's been responsible for imposing on Defence for the last 12 months...

Wyler 5th May 2006 10:53

The Tory party has two ex Guards Officers. Oh super, horses all round then.

Strictly Jungly 5th May 2006 10:59


Originally Posted by fantaman
This from the BBC News, who will be the next defence sec???



At least we've got rid of that w:mad: r Reid! :ok:

Yes we may hav but I am sure another useless odious creature will be along soon to continue where Arch spinster Reid has left off!

Duncan D'Sorderlee 5th May 2006 11:15

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/about/...ile_browne.cfm

teeteringhead 5th May 2006 11:16

You are cruel! IMHO John Reid was one of the best we've had for a long time (not difficult you may well say). He had the background as Min AF, which was when I was last in Whitehall and he seemed good then. More importantly in some ways, he had been "shadow" for a long time prior to '77 and had not a bad depth of knowledge already.

Better the devil you know ...... and stand by for photo-opportunity (sorry, I mean fact-finding) visits to outposts various ... just what the troops need I guess......:rolleyes:

The Helpful Stacker 5th May 2006 11:18


Originally Posted by Wyler
The Tory party has two ex Guards Officers. Oh super, horses all round then.

They are also ex-them members too but they probably don't like to talk about it.;)

Bluntend 5th May 2006 11:21

Some interesting posts on the BBC's message page:
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thre...20060505121527
I must admit, I find it hard to disagree with most of the comments made...

Wyler 5th May 2006 11:28

Helpful Stacker
 
Were they the technical advisers on Ultimate Force?:E

The Helpful Stacker 5th May 2006 11:39


Originally Posted by Wyler
Were they the technical advisers on Ultimate Force?:E

No I believe that was Mr Mitty, ex-THEM instructor in underwater knife fighting.

dallas 5th May 2006 11:58

Notwithstanding the statistical probability that he is a t*sser in view of the company he keeps, I'm not actually sure what Reid did while DefSec. So much as it would be fashionable to criticise him now he's off, I can't.

Either way Browne with an e is hardly going to waltz in and get the budget we need to do the job. Note: I don't mean to refurbish Whitehall offices and buy senior officers new cars either - I mean buy the kit for the military task at hand. A330s would be a good start.

WhiteOvies 5th May 2006 11:58

Surely underwater knife fighting is more the remit of the lads from Dorset? :suspect:


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