The link, Kluge, is bleedingly obvious. No pilot, in those early, risky and gutsy days of aviation would have lowered himself so far as to be a Gasman, nor would the poor bloody observer. If they were here today, I have no doubt that they would be committed non-gas practitioners who would abhor instant GAS gratification and pyjama cricket. In fact, they may even question (although I can't because it's not PC these days) the orientation of individuals who follow such deviant practices.

Perhaps, but then gas had a more sombre meaning and application back then didn't it.


The modern application of propane does solve the wx window challenge more efficiently than coals though, Jon :ugh:

I spent four years in your national capital as an aviation gunrunner, and became an AFL devotee. Not the best team I know, but I supported the Raiders and socialised with some of the players, all of whom were practising gassers. They also quaffed copious VB:D. I can imagine the resultant shape of your hooter if you'd dared to challenge their orientation! Also followed the Bulls:uhoh:

.......but they were sh!t :}


sorry had to be done - :ok:

Jindabyne, old sort, I now understand where you got your handle.

Unfortunately, Rugby League players are not the sharpest tools in the shed. Have you ever seen a game where the scrum was lost on the feed, where the game plan was anything other than 5 tackles and a predictable bomb to the right-hand corner - over and over? Consequently, I agree with your contention that I'd get punched out - what else would a brain dead knuckle-dragger do?

So, I will extend the linkage as follows:

Rugby League = Pyjama Cricket = Short Attention Span = VB = GAS.

Whereas Rugby Union = Test Cricket = Knowledgable Observation = Decent Beer (from any continent) = non-gas.

That is about the most tedious link I have seen Howabout - but everyone is entitled to their opinion of course...!

Reckon I'm with Howabout on this one.

VB is cat urine, league is boring, pyjama cricket is a waste of good braaing and drinking time and gas is definitely suspect.:suspect:





All Webers are suspect but using gas or charcoal merely indicates the difference between flaming and closet...:E

LJR,

Thank you; one must keep the best thread going on this famous forum. I am not one to be picky; but, if you GAS, follow league, watch the pyjama game and drink VB, then your use of 'tedious,' when you probably meant 'tenuous,' is entirely understandable.

No offence intended. :}

SRT,

I originally missed the small font.

I am reading a good book at the moment by a rather eminent historian who asserts the following:

'The Boers greased their bodies to ward off fleas and covered their floors with cow dung to discourage other vermin. They slept communally under buckskin karosses etc etc'

If the choice between being a non-gas Weber practioner and a braais afficianado means I must be either be a closet queen or grease my body daily to ward off bugs, as well as share my sleeping space with other greased bodies, then I'm off to the nearest women's clothing store poste-haste......once I can find those damned black stilletos, and matching suspender belt, which cost me a small fortune.:}

Well it's been a 'no go' for outdoor cooking round here. I need to get a gazebo set up so even snow stop play.

I did manage to get hold of 24 VB though, thank you very much Beagle for the heads up. Memories coming back at each swig. Now if I can get a bottle of that pre mix 'Bundy' and coke, I'll be back at the Beach Club on Hamilton.

GPMG, yes, I know what you mean. It's been pouring down since Friday; the blackfellow is getting a good wash though...:uhoh: Although the hubcap thing which normal catches True Fuel by product is full of water....:(
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...rnet/zxzxz.jpg

Glad you found the clue for the VB! I'm down to my last 9, so a trip to the local booze warehouse will be due soon.

You can certainly buy Bundy rum in the UK; however, I doubt whether the 'alcopop' premix with coke is available. I gather that Clueless Kevin in Oz has introduced a tax on such things; paradoxically people are now drinking more alcohol as a result because most will mix their own to a rather stronger proportion than the premix strength.

Alcopops are rather too close to gas for my taste though...:eek:

Howabout; yes, it is hardly a difficult choice. Roll about greased up and naked in the cow dung with your chums like a Royal Mar...., sorry, a Boer before using leftover bits of native village for your braai - or pay homage to the noble black orb? No real need for the suspenders and stilletos - unless, of course, that's your thing.....:suspect:

Oops - need a link to aviation. OK, how about today's TAF for hereabouts:

070746Z 0709/0809 05008KT 9999 FEW012 SCT040 TEMPO 0709/0711 SCT022 TEMPO 0711/0720 6000 SHRA SCT020 BECMG 0721/0801 6000 BR BKN007 PROB40 TEMPO 0801/0806 3500 BR OVC005 BECMG 0806/0809 SCT020

Oh joy........ No barbi' today then.

BEagle,

The TEMPO is a slight worry, but it should not preclude the use of the mighty orb. Arc it up in the wife's sewing room. Where's the temp by the way? It's f'ing freezing down here. I know you have crap weather, but surely the thermometer is on the rise.

I gave up on the shopping expedition. I really did think about covering myself in grease, like SRT, and trying the braais. But, at the end of it, I looked at the beautiful orb, felt ashamed with the thought of betrayal, stuck on the stilletos and, would you believe it, snapped a heel.

It's the Queen's Birthday long weekend here, and the traditional Ski Season Opening Weekend. No skiing, just an excuse for Social Gatherings in the Alps.

Delighted to report that with constant snow for the past two days, the electric BBQ works well out on the balcony :p

And James Boags finest is the current Ale of choice :ok:

Electric JE? I'll say it again; Electric JE??. BBQs ain't electric. I have one of those electric hotplate/grill thingys, but would deserve stoning if I referred to it as a BBQ. It's a convenient piece of kit that's useful for a quick fried feed in the morning, and an occassional snag in the afternoon - but it ain't no BBQ; regardless of whether it's used inside or out.

However, I cannot take offence because you are a Boags devotee. Superior beer made from crystal waters.

BEagle, a further challenge - get some Boags, then compare it to that p155 called VB. I think that you will find that the combination of a non-gas Weber (returning to thread) and Boags Finest - made with pure, unpolluted, spring water from Tasmania and the finest hops - will prove to be a very satisfactory combination.

Electric? It's getting worse.:ugh:

Next thing you bunch of mincers will be going around wearing shoes or something....





I dunno, nick their rugger trophy and they all turn into a bunch of big girls' blouses....:rolleyes:

Swimmers and wellies seem to be appropriate given the weather today.

VHHH 0906/1012 19010KT 9999 FEW015 SCT025 BKN060 TX31/1006Z TN26/0922Z TEMPO 0906/0909 VRB25G35KT 2500 TSRA +SHRA FEW008 SCT012CB BKN040 TEMPO 0909/0912 3500 SHRA TEMPO 0918/1000 4000 SHRA=



Green ones too no doubt for those sarf of Watford. :rolleyes:


But if there is a 30 min wx window there's ample time to BBQ - BUT ONLY WITH GAS :ok:

Kluge,

30 minutes won't cut it. GAS or non-GAS, you can't do anything decent on a Weber in 30 minutes. John Eacott's electric griddle would be more practical to do a few snags.

However, apart from the cloud, the showers and the TS what are you complaining about? I could arc up the beast in an environment that's got those temps, with a little bit of cover, and without any problems.

Did it many a time in SEA. Hell, if you can't improvise son, in Honkers summer weather, then I don't doubt that you're a GASSMAN.

Well, I reckon about 45 min for the minimum 'match-to-scoff' time using the True Fuel.

Electrickery? Good grief - indirect heating is simply NOT barbi'-ing. Any way, don't people in HK have servants for such menial tasks as indirect heat cookery? Which, it has to be said, is rather girly.

James Boags can easily be obtained over here from on-line booze purveyors; I could well go for a mixed case of Weißbier and James Boags once the present beer stock reaches Bingo 2.

My, the temperature here today has reached a stunning 14 deg C - yep, this must be our 3-day Summer!

By the way, Kluge, is there anything north of Watford? Strange people who eat pigs' feet and other unmentionable animal parts which a southern gentleman wouldn't even feed to his dog, by all accounts. Tha' knaws....

Yes, I thought so too. So glad that you finally agree old chap.

That’s why you need a lesson in GAS power and hot plates (non leccy of course) my son. You know it makes sense – and especially in between SHRA in S.A.R summer when the Ama/boatgirl/maid has boogered off. Where did I put my rickshaw cane ?


Now then. The noble, magical, humble piggy, from nose to tail, beard to butt, all useful, a walking, snorting, squealing specialty store of flavour.*

Hark – do we have a gastronomic heretic amongst us or could it be Marco Porcello ?



* has been known to cause flu

Ah, but the mud crabs tasted delicious, cooked and lightly chilli'd on the electric thingy, albeit with snow falling outside the balcony ;)

(and keep the Boags at a suitable temperature :ok: )

http://gallery.me.com/johneacott/101...CN5192/web.jpg

Owning the larger product of the Weber factory powered by the proper fuel I have this week had the experience of lighting it for a luncheon BBQ which got cancelled into becoming an evening dinner party.

Two bags of charcol lit at 11.30hrs were closed down at 12.45hrs and then brought majestically into life again at 18.10hrs without any intervention. Thats most flexible in my view. And still cheaper than gas. And still better tasting.

Coupled with the top top grog from naked wines (put it in google and prepare to amaze your taste buds without alarming your wallet - best value wine in the UK bar none) it was a fine event.

WWW

My weber was purchased at Kalkar px in 1977 (mad dash from Laarbruch when word got out that they had stock in)............. still going strong after a return tour in RAFG and many many camping trips...........
Refurbed with bits I 'claimed' when we did a mad dash out of Incerlik 26 years later. Legs are getting a bit unsteady now (mine and the weber:-)

dctyke,

A lovely story in dedication to the Orb. 1977 must be some sort of record - can anyone do any better?

I trust that the 1977 version remains a 'manual,' as opposed to the heathen 'automatic' version used by GASSERS. Unfortuately, their short attention spans, dedication to pyjama cricket and Rugby League, and inexplicable liking for a P155 called VB puts them in the 'tragic' category. But we must be charitable, as my dear mother always said, towards those that stray and indulge in deviant behaviour. Hence, we must have sympathy and love for the poor, misguided souls in the hope of eventual salvation.

WWW,

Spot on! Ain't coals so flexible - done the same myself and the beast arced up beautifully after a similar timeframe. I'll take the flexibility (isn't that one of the Principles of Airpower? - memory is dimming - but it injects some relevance for the Mods), and, more importantly, the taste, any day.

Eacott,

Your capacity for upsetting fellow correspondents has reached new heights. You totally ruined my evening with your reference to Chilli Crab. Do you have no heart man??

Kluge,

Get with the program! Hot-plates on Webers? I wouldn't insult mine with such a perversion. It's designed for joints man! joints! Maybe you should get one of those Dancocks that were referred to a few pages back!

As regards Australia's unceremonious dumping out of the Pyjama Twenty/20, I couldn't give a rat's. If I was a GASSER I'd probably be weeping in my VB. As a non-GAS practitioner, I only care about the real form of the game. It's the Ashes that will sort out the men from the boys.

Howabout,

But of course it's coal powered, it's just not the same with gas! Just been out to take a pic of the ol gal. Note the mod with the ash collector (the bit I 'rescued from Incerlik'.

................er ok, how do I send a pic by url?

dctyke,

I sympathise. I can post from external sources, but am buggered how to extract pictures off my drive to post on PPrune.

However, I need that picture of the 1977 Weber.

JE, seeing how you tortured me with the crab, and posted a picture of the chalet, what's the chance of giving dctyke a pointer.

No smatassed replies from GASSERS regarding my aged, technological incompetence thankyou.

Never will there be any comments regarding your technological incompetence sir. := After all this is PPRuNe. :E

An interesting snippet.

"The process of grilling must also be defined in terms of the fuel used. There are several different types of grills, but gas and charcoal are by far the most common. They are also the source of the great grill debate: efficiency versus flavor (and don’t we know it). Today, gas grills represent about 60 percent of sales to household consumers. It is clear that they have their advantages, the most touted being ease of use, not having to add more fuel during long cookouts, and a juicy end product :D . Grilling purists, however, argue that hardwood charcoal gives a better flavor, and a smoky, drier character :rolleyes: . The fuel source for charcoal grills has been recognized for at least five thousand years. No one is certain who discovered charcoal, but evidence of early use has been found all over the world. :zzz: What most consumers may not know is that charcoal is actually wood; it is created by heating wood to high temperatures. Charcoal does provide a distinctive flavor that is not easily reproduced. :8 And with the use of hardwoods like hickory, cherry, and mesquite, the flavor profile of the final product may have infinite variety :zzz: . It is a tough decision for many people: :confused: the convenience of a gas grill :ok: against the flavor of charcoal.” :rolleyes:

In the context of this and the evolution of mankind – how many non gas users continue to scrape their knuckles whilst walking?

Finally – let’s hope that you don’t use Biomass briquettes - they are made from agricultural waste :suspect: . Gives your steak that certain nutty flavour :eek: :yuk:

Absolutely none Kluge. As I have explained before, GAS = instant gratification = short attention span = pyjama cricket = VB = rugby league. Rugby League is the code of the knuckle-draggers on this planet, particularly in this country. The expression 'thick as two short planks' comes to mind, but in their case it's probably closer to four, or five, or six.....Hence, GAS use, by extension, can also be legitimately attributed to the slow-learner category in the population.

After all, it was a well known rugby league player, who was in NZ for a game, when quizzed by a journalist over breakfast about the amount of bacon on his plate, said that 'yes it was a huge plate of bacon,' but that wouldn't dent the supply because NZ has 'plenty of bloody sheep.' The man was obviously a knuckle-dragging GASSER.

In comparison, the more discerning, and thoughtful, Weber devotees considered both options, performed a mental appreciation process (of which knuckle-draggers are incapable) and came to the conclusion that the flavour of non-gas was far preferable to the (alleged) convenience of GAS.

Regarding posting photos on PPRuNe, see:

http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...une-guide.html

Very simple - easiest way is to put your photo onto some free photo hosting website such as Photobucket, then copy the URL into your post.

So simple that even someone with the attention span required for jim-jam 20/20 cricket or cooking with gas could probably follow it!

What's that strange yellow thing up there in the sky? Could it mean that my noble blackfellow might get some work this evening?

Thanks BEagle, lets hope it works via photobucket!

Howabout - Now, now, wearing gloves is cheating. :=


Not sure what logic base you are using old chap but it's certainly not Boolean, Ternary, Venn or even OODA in origin. :suspect:

Please don't inhale the fumes from those Biomass briquettes. :yuk:



This chap in Godzone you say, from the Western Isle was he?

It’s all gone very quiet from the non-gas users (nGU's) - smoke inhalation perhaps?

Or is it because;

1. Primitive Man (nGU) = (perceived flavour - history_lesson) + (scraped knuckles/gloves) / Biomass briquettes

or

2. Juicy end Product (GU) = wx_window_advantage(clean+ ease_of_use + less fuel + more_efficient)


Answers as an equation please correcting for density altitude.

Anyone notice a trend here? The knuckle draggers:

Have a penchant for Fosters (or had, until steered in a better direction)

Call Green Label "Vickie Bravo" :yuk:

Put beer in the freezer :eek:



Those with the CDF to use gas:

Cook decent tucker (crab, crays, prawns, etc)

Drink decent ales, eg Boags, Coopers, etc, suitably chilled in the beer fridge, failing that stick it in a snowdrift ;)

Wash down the red meat with suitable wines, eg De Bortolis, Hensche, or Penfolds Bin 95. (Look up the Bin 95, BEags: you'll appreciate it :ok:)

It's now Friday Night, time for a wee dram of Dalmore to get the evening going :p




ps at least one knuckle dragger eats at Jimmy Watsons, so there is some hope ;)

Entirely correct.

And with nGUs consistently banging on about their “blackfellows” which inevitably deliver a lesser juicy end product it seems that the tables are now well and truly turned.

Indeed the case has been made and is substantiated - Non GAS Usersare gay.

Q.E.D

Yep Kluge, I'm as gay as all get out. Gay that the joint turned out so well tonight (family get together), gay that I didn't have to drink VB p155, gay that rugby league wasn't on the TV, and gay that I don't have any fixation for mindless pastimes, like the pyjama game, that fixate GASSERS.

There's a big difference between being gay, in the real meaning of the word, and a fairy that uses GAS.

As for you JE, I'm surprised that you've been inside. As a GASMAN, I'd have thought Pizza Hut was more your style. No waiting - instant gratification.

Oh dear. Into the Dragons' Den.

I started a barbie thread on JB, little knowing of this thread -- to which I was pointed.

Must say, I was going for gas. But (without checking 600 posts) I reckon that the simple fayre I want to cook, bangers (snags), burgers, small steaks etc would be better enhanced by the use of charcoal.

If I grill them using gas I may just as well do it 10 yards away on the oven, right?

I've seen a Weber (I'd never heard of them before I started my barbie thread) in the local Homebase, it looks nifty, has a detachable ash tray etc and seems just right.

Does this make me a knuckledragger??!! :}

nGU trying to light a Weber
 

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2...ioning-W-1.jpg

....and without gloves too.

Well, being a Weber user you're merely mincing. The gas users are flaming. Nothing beats hardekool from the bushveld in an old oil drum.








...And I've stopped peeling bananas with my feet, so there.....:}

South African BBQ Etiquette

South Africans are serious about braaing [braai = barbecue].
It’s so serious there’s even a hierarchy – first the tong master, then the boerie layer, and finally the fork pronger.


SRT - all sounds very suspicious to me. :suspect:


Sure it's not tongue master? :yuk:

These boerie - pls keep your paraphilia to yourself thank you. :=

And as for fork pronger :eek:

Posers. Probably filmed in Oz or something. Not a real braai - the use of the Devil's Scrotum is a dead giveaway.

Ah SRT - yes you are right, that special primeval fungus....something to do with Biomass I think.



I am reliably informed that the following are images of a certain Weber nGU that posts on this very thread.

Here he is enjoying a joke......

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2.../primmtxt2.jpg

.....and then this image was captured when he realised that he didn't quite understand the punchline....................sad really.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g2.../primmtxt3.jpg