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StopStart 6th Apr 2006 18:19

Ah, fcbellio :)

I expect to be given a large envelope full of US dollars tomorrow, as we head west, along with instructions on how to screw the system please.

See you there ;)

Hoots 6th Apr 2006 18:30

So here we are on capped actuals and the civil service have no cap on thier actuals, wonder who came up with this great idea. So £21 (DS)per day and £5 (IE) incidentals in the UK, wonder how far that will go. Full amount of hotel paid if booked through CHBS, but a maximum of £53 if not booked through CHBS. I wonder how much CHBS gets from each booking, as it sounds like they dont want you to book your own place.

Cant wait til i get my JPA password also, to see how much they've got wrong.

Ginseng 6th Apr 2006 19:37

SubdiFuge
 
Lunch on its own is up to £4.20 in the UK.

Regards

Ginseng

Always_broken_in_wilts 6th Apr 2006 20:10

Come on guys, there is huge scope here to "have a great time" on this fabtastic new system, just start thinking in true Ascoteer fashion:ok:

Taxi to and from the your hotel to go to dinner..............each!! Ching ching.

Obtaining a reciept for the your full capped actual stating food and soft drinks......... whilst drinking your body weight in beer, I mean how difficult is that going to be:E

3 minute phone call from your hotel room to the New Zealand speaking clock every day............:p

If you can't make this new fangled admin boll@cks work........you'r a girl:E

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

Lowkey 6th Apr 2006 20:56

Done one trip on new details so far. Arrived at destination, the rates sheet from the imprest office was obviously wrong as it would have only bought a cup of coffee on the daily allowance. Everyone therefore on proper actuals and not this capped c**p. On the bright side the GE's might start to eat joined up food downroute!!

FFP 9th Apr 2006 20:01


Originally Posted by Always_broken_in_wilts
Taxi to and from the your hotel to go to dinner..............each!! Ching ching.
3 minute phone call from your hotel room to the New Zealand speaking clock every day............:p

Rules state that Taxi's can only be used if a suitable eatery is not nearby. You taxi it from the hotel and every other crew eats in, you need to explain why.

3 minute phone call will get checked on. If it's receipted (i.e on your room bill) If they find it's not a friend or relative (which it states it should be) then best you have an excuse.

You can rip the p!$$ . . . . .but is the pension worth a few $ ?

ratty1 9th Apr 2006 20:09


Originally Posted by FFP
3 minute phone call will get checked on. If it's receipted (i.e on your room bill) If they find it's not a friend or relative (which it states it should be) then best you have an excuse.

It is only a 3 minute phone call upto your IE limit of £10.

FFP 10th Apr 2006 19:39

Agreed.

Like I said, life down route isn't going to be the same with the new system, but not worth losing the job over a few quid.

fcbellio 13th Apr 2006 20:20

cheers....
 
Just got back from my first capped actuals route. Eaten more in a week than I would in a month, I'm desperate for a beer, need a new rucksack for all the paperwork I need to carry, 'briefed' to death the lads on what they can - or more to the point can't - buy, and in the dwang from the missus for not using my 12 free minutes to ring her!!!!
Oh - and thanks to whoever has been trawling Maccy D's for reciepts, lets just give the fun police the reason they were after to get the microscope out... - and it wasn't me, I prefer KFC.

fat albert 13th Apr 2006 22:46

I still don't understand it......can you explain it again please? 4 Large Platters?

:}

Sadbloke 13th Apr 2006 23:41

Wot R U all talking about? Flying Fast Jets since mid 80s & never been on actuals anywhere! Loadsa dets around bazaars - get a token handout and spend a huge amount of yr own wonga having a good time - thought that wuz how it worked? Perhaps I just did too well at BFTS & should have gone Truckin & obtained diploma in cadging allowances various!

Lara crofts pants 14th Apr 2006 00:15

Yes indeed, you obviously did far too well.

BEagle 14th Apr 2006 06:31

First tour on Vs, second on the 'toom...

On the f-4, went to Gut on a 4-5 day exercise. We were accommodated off-base, some way away. The Blunt Ones expected everyone to be bussed back in every evening to eat on base....

Slef plus truckie chum from the C-130 det cornered the ProjO and told him what he could do with that idea. After much robust discussion, it was agreed that we could do our own thing in the evening and receive the appropriate breakfast, lunch and dinner allowance but mustn't eat in the OM as that would then be contrary to the regs. Fair enough - off to accounts for a truck load of Dm, explained it to the chums and paid them, paid the lads (the Eng WO went all misty-eyed aabout the 'pay parades' of his youth), then told them there'd be a little paperwork to sort when we got back.

Had a great week -the FJ mates couldn't believe how they were normally shafted on their 'Dets', ending up paying through the nose even though they were entitled. Showed them the bit in the accounting blurb which stated that they were Command rules, not specific to a/c type. Hotel keeper in Gut was so amazed that the bill ws paid on time for once that he gave me a nice bottle of wine.

Got home, sat them down and made them fill out the (in those days) individual 6663s. Usual moaning, but they had no idea how to fill them in. Collected it all up, down to Accounts, all OK. Then a week or so later they all received a few quid more balancing payment.

Did anyone say thank you? Just the groundcrew lads. A certain VSO PPRuNer teasingly called me a truckie, but that was about all the thanks I got from the aircrew.

If you want to be shafted in the FJ world, feel free. But knowing your entitlement is hardly rocket science.

Sadbloke 14th Apr 2006 22:56

Perhaps someone should sit us down one day and give us a little hour on what you can claim & when. Even issue a little gizzer that says if you divert to ... you are entitled to water allowances, taxis to yer jet, missed meals blah blah. Far more useful than the normal ground training on the operating pressure of the standby hyd pump et al. Being 'knowledgeable of yer entitlements' is all very well, but fer yer average fast jet Dude who cant even spell imprest, the allowances mystery is one of those matters that should be investigated after the myriad of other triv!


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