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16 blades 7th Mar 2006 05:47

Odd - every time I've followed a J on an Interfly, it's been THEM that have got lost - "You DO know you're about to overfly a glider site, don't you, oh mighty electric jet?"....followed by sudden avoiding action...that is when they manage to complete the entire route without having to land somewhere to do a CTRL-ALT-DELETE....

It would seem the tradtional 'looking out of the window' method of navigation has passed our Northside friends by....never mind boys, just keep staring through your HUDs...I'm sure the answer will appear there eventually....after the third reset or so.

"PNF - I need the red card drill for "Computer says NO and we have to use our own brain!"

"Says LAND ASAP here, captain......."

100% true, so I'm told!

:E

16B

propulike 7th Mar 2006 07:48

It's suddenly clicked. You're not aircrew are you? You've no idea what goes on!

P-T-Gamekeeper 7th Mar 2006 08:13


Originally Posted by 16 blades
It would seem the tradtional 'looking out of the window' method of navigation has passed our Northside friends by....never mind boys, just keep staring through your HUDs...I'm sure the answer will appear there eventually....after the third reset or so.
16B

Hmmm, what is that glass thing behind my HUD, I could have sworn it was a window.

Anyway, the 777 is far better than flying either:p

Don't forget, BA not PA!!!!!

P-T-G

Now a 'J' Bloke!! 7th Mar 2006 14:47

P-T-G

you're still a git.:ok:

Bagged any hosties yet???
No obviously not....you're still GINGER!!!:yuk:

All the Best;
'J' Bloke:cool:

Op Tastic 7th Mar 2006 16:47

Pse tie in with the Rebels massing in Solust thread, " You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!"

Can't beat Lx!

theboywide 7th Mar 2006 18:50

24 Blades - I've yet to go on a sortie where a K has pointed out a glider site to a J - digimap anyone?
I have however seen a K crew set up for final approach on Keevil instead of Lyneham doh!
And I've seen a K crew return to Basrah having failed to find a certain strippy type airfield whose name I can't possibly mention.
You keep living the dream 16b while the world evolves around you!

16 blades 8th Mar 2006 05:21

...and I've seen a J crew return to base because their 'digimap' froze - aww, bless....ever heard of paper?

You DO have a stopwatch on your flight deck, don't you? And windows to look out of?

The K's nav kit is every bit as accurate as the J's - except you need a brain to use it.

16B

Now a 'J' Bloke!! 8th Mar 2006 06:15

...and I've seen a J crew return to base because their 'digimap' froze - aww, bless....ever heard of paper?

24blades...nice new moniker!!!:}

At least the 'J' got airborne before their kit failed.
But then again, even with the lims of our digimap, I've never seen it freeze.
Just lucky I guess.

Any MCT this week for you???:hmm:

RTM.
'J' Bloke:cool:

16 blades 8th Mar 2006 06:38


24blades...nice new moniker!!!
W@nkers!

The CHEEK of it!

MCT hours count towards the licence, old boy - unlike your sim.

16B

propulike 8th Mar 2006 07:35

Don't need to worry about getting enough hours on the 'J' !

How was the hours building in the Falklands?

theboywide 8th Mar 2006 14:53


Originally Posted by 16 blades
...and I've seen a J crew return to base because their 'digimap' froze - aww, bless....ever heard of paper?
You DO have a stopwatch on your flight deck, don't you? And windows to look out of?
The K's nav kit is every bit as accurate as the J's - except you need a brain to use it.
16B

I've had the digimap fail on me several times and navigating from paper maps is just as easy. Follow the beautiful white line on the nav radar and the steer bar on the head up display and cross ref with paper map - still less talking than a K flight deck and no need for a distinct smell of wee in the corner! Anyone that goes home with a digimap fail (and I've heard of none) should have their knuckles wrapped as they're wusses.
Oh and by the way - speak to K operators that have done the J course and ask them which takes more brains to operate.

Always_broken_in_wilts 8th Mar 2006 20:26

W@nkers!:p

24 Blades what a cracking reposte dude, keep em comin :ok:

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

PS Unless greatly mistaken there was a "K" out her on route today, can anyone explain my "mirage":E

ratty1 8th Mar 2006 21:09


Originally Posted by Always_broken_in_wilts


PS Unless greatly mistaken there was a "K" out here on route today, can anyone explain my "mirage":E

Probably looking for Keevil..............................:8

Now a 'J' Bloke!! 8th Mar 2006 22:47

Dear ABIW;

Too many DFs again...
I suggest that you lie down in an air-conditioned basha!!!:\

See you soon...:ok:

'J' Bloke..:cool:

PS. 24B has gone to bed...sorting out the Wiltshire insurgents tomorrow apparently!!!:hmm:

Edited for Red wine speeling

16 blades 8th Mar 2006 22:50

Bless! You're all such 'sensitive boys' aren't you?

16B

Now a 'J' Bloke!! 8th Mar 2006 22:58

So then 24B....

Pray tell just why a Mk1 route for the occaisional K fleet(?) needs a set of Rumbold seats if all the crew are current and prepped for Ops.:mad:

Damn those West Wiltshire infidels!!! They need sorting with some of those JerryCans full of water!!!:ok:

More Later...
'J' Bloke.:cool:

16 blades 8th Mar 2006 23:04

Work it out dude! Not rocket science. The clue was in your question.

The K fleet is where the REAL Operational sharp end still lives. And will for a long, long time to come. The J is not equipped to do that job. And never will be, unless somebody makes a LARGE pile of money available, soon.

16B

Always_broken_in_wilts 9th Mar 2006 10:57

Now now 24 Blades I hardly think the current numbers of "klassics" on deployment can be described as a fleet, more like a pair I would have thought:E

Also bearing in mind the continuity in your posts could you please enlighten us as to when Wiltshire or Cambridge officialy became the sharp end:rolleyes:

"The K fleet is where the REAL Operational sharp end still lives. And will for a long, long time to come. The J is not equipped to do that job."

Slightly ill informed I think chap as should you care to wander over to the newer part of the staion and make polite enuries you may find that the J has in fact carried out some very daring do's when your "fleet" has been "unavailable":eek:, and made a bloody good job of it to boot.

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

16 blades 9th Mar 2006 16:57

If you don't know what I was referring to, I'm not going to explain it to you on a public forum. Take my word for it.

16B

propulike 9th Mar 2006 22:31

Yes, you're all working very hard. So hard in fact that the Sqn shags aren't logging any of the hours in order to create a smokescreen.

How about that you lot just acknowledge that the Tac stuff you keep bleating on about is irrelevant in the theatres we're in, ditch that incessant high fatigue index training which will never be required for the Sqn guys and take some of the tasking off the 'J' which is flying it's arse off everywhere except the Lyneham circuit?


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