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spectre150 28th Feb 2006 12:54

Jaguar Overseas Training Flight
 
I see that 41 Sqn made the Current Bun today. Another variation on the 'overseas jolly wastes taxpayers money' theme after 3 jets went to Aviano for the weekend (presumably on what we used to call a Ranger). The article reeked of disgruntled non badge holder (trade deleted to reduce the risk of flaming) sour grapes. Surely the pilots were not 'frolicking in the snow with engineers' as the rag reported. Whatever next...

M T Room 28th Feb 2006 19:43

Here is the link. Why not if you can!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006090539,00.html

trilander 28th Feb 2006 20:08

Thank be that the sun never showed at Decci when 1(f) were there in the 70s, they would fill the rag for a week

Safety_Helmut 28th Feb 2006 20:35


Last night an outraged member of the ground crew at the base stormed: “It was just a total jolly and all at the public’s expense.
So, disaffected liney who didn't get to go, or, bitter and twisted shiney/stacker ?

"Such training includes responsibility for the maintenance of the aircraft whilst on deployment by the aircrew.”
Now there's an area where training won't be wasted !

S_H

BEagle 28th Feb 2006 20:37

'Last night an outraged member of the ground crew at the base stormed: "It was just a total jolly and all at the public’s expense." '

Been at the dung again, Baldrick?

Translated, surely it was "Bleedin' zobs swan off ter Italy an' we don't get to go. Not fair, 's a bleedin liberty, innit"

Well at least that's 6 jets you don't have to work on for a few days, you moaning git. Now cut along and stop complaining.

Noah Zark. 28th Feb 2006 20:56

Somone's been talking a load of frolicks!

MostlyHarmless 28th Feb 2006 21:50


Is every OTF going to attract this much attention?
Guess they prob'ly stick out a bit more in the "Modern" RAF than they did a few years ago. Suprised they still have an OTF budget worth speaking of, TBH... :(

ranger703 28th Feb 2006 22:03

"The RAF told The Sun: “We can confirm that six Jaguar aircraft that flew into to Aviano, Italy, were on a standard overseas training flight.

“This training mission allowed us to achieve and maintain operational capability for rapid overseas deployment to an overseas Nato airbase.

"Such training includes responsibility for the maintenance of the aircraft whilst on deployment by the aircrew.”


C'mon now chaps,no need to be so defensive,just admit the guys are making the most of the Jaguars final days in service.It isnt as if they are going to be used for anything worthwhile before retirement.

Arty 28th Feb 2006 22:34

What, six jags left Colt and all six made it to Aviano??

Now that I find hard to believe! Not April 1st yet is it? :confused:

Fg Off Max Stout 1st Mar 2006 02:00

Utter f-ing bunch of cock
 
Once again this tiresome doc template has been pulled out by the gutter rags. Just edit the aircraft type and destination and hey presto - headline news.

We better start only doing landaways to the sh1tholes of the world, and then being confined to camp, lest we be seen to enjoy our job and take an interest in the opportunities it affords.

Further to what Deliverance said, if you'd worked harder at school you could have been doing landaways in frontline military aircraft, rather than sitting on your arse reading (or writing) the Current Bun.

Utter bunch of arse. Grrrrr. (Was that you, Francois?)

Landaway to Banjul, anyone?

Talking Radalt 1st Mar 2006 06:20

...or alternatively, during a recent land of sand det, sit a Scum photographer right next to the ramp much to the smug delight of the little tw@t whilst all the other journos were sat further forward, then deny him permission ot use his camera and then "run out" of sick bags when the slimey yellow-spined oik felt a little queasy (during a very gentle transition worthy of 32 Sqn I hasten to add) :E
I find it SOOOOOO funny that out of all the journos I've hosted/escorted/answered stupid questions for, it's always the Scum who categorically come out top as THE most unmilitary people ever to walk the face of the Earth.
Torygraph always cut a dash in safari suits and stout brogues,
Daily Mail go all modern and Rohan...
But the Scum.......a fecking shell-suit on a military flight.
What's that? Take the pi$$? Us? :uhoh:

Kitbag 1st Mar 2006 06:34

There can be no doubt that OTF is valuable training for crews in transiting across national borders and I can't think of a FJ unit which doesn't do it. Perhaps the stun wouldn't be able to raise it as an issue however if it had been a days trip out and a days trip back midweek, rather than a weekend city break with 3 nights in a hotel, unless of course the guys stayed in visiting Officers Quarters at Aviano AB, that doesn't seem to be the case here. Even people who didn't work hard at school can see the need for a bit of common sense in these days of financial restraint. :ok:

spectre150 1st Mar 2006 08:45

Right chaps, here is the deal. We need to get our stats up to date so we need a couple of crews to take a pair of jets away for the weekend. I know you spend a long time in hot shi$$y places so you can pick somewhere nice. However, you have to stay on base and dont be seen to be having a good time, in case we offend the press or non-flying types. Any volunteers?

plassey1 1st Mar 2006 09:26

Jaguar training
 
As a humble but much exploited taxpayer watching my taxes being wasted on a range of useless ventures - my comment is :-
The services seem to be the only thing left of any value - so if you did have a few drinks after your training detail then I can only hope it was my bit of the tax burden that paid for them - cheers to you all.

GengisKhant 1st Mar 2006 09:57

Did they manage to sneak the upright piano in the back seat of one of the T birds for the end of det sing/bar B Q burn along song? Or am I confusing them with another Colt Sqn?

tonkatechie 1st Mar 2006 12:53

I have no problem with you guys going anywhere, but with one clause: if it's somewhere nice, would you mind doing a 'proper servicing';) and find something that requires me to come out and do a quick fix before heading off to the local bar? Cheers:ok:

airborne_artist 1st Mar 2006 13:06

TT - I think a number of those who took part were hoping to give the local ladies a "proper servicing" :ok:

Hummingfrog 1st Mar 2006 13:11

This is a terrible waste of taxpayers money. Whatever next. These RAF pilots using taxpayers money to enjoy themselves will only give our hard working politicians ideas. I can envisage all sorts of jollies been organised by politicians using this as RAF detachment as an example.

The politicians will want to, at the taxpayers expense:-

Travel 1st Class.
Hold meetings on world poverty in places like the Bahamas while staying in 5* hotels.
Use Taxis to visit friends.
Get approx £10,000 per year to pay a mortgage on a flat in Edinburgh and keep the profit when they sell it.
Have a chauffer driven car to take them to Aberdeen to catch a flight home and give their girlfriends a lift to work.
Claim motor mileage for Scottish trips when they are out of the country.

Where will it all end:confused:

HF;) (most of the examples are taken from that waste of taxpayers money the Scottish Talking Shop:mad: )

(hope it was as good as our mountain flying detachments to BK in the 70s. Recce the slopes am ski pm)

Lafyar Cokov 1st Mar 2006 13:49

Blimey - 18 posts and no Southside justifiaction of the amazing journalistic accuracies, must be a record.....:D

Monty77 1st Mar 2006 13:52

plassey1: cheers mate, clearly one of the silent minority:)

hummingfrog: good call. But don't get me started on the real loafing/freebie experts. Yes, your Euro f*cking MP. Now there's a gravy train on a circular track. They make the oily local lot look like toddlers. Their expenses alone are way in excess of the average salary on this website. Leaving party politics out of it for a second (I'm full-on Tory by the way), check out the Kinnocks.
100,000 a piece basic before their admin staff have even started filling in the claim forms. Jolly to Italy for the weekend? Go for it lads. It's a drop in the ocean compared to what other 'public servants' get up to. Even their cars use more fuel as their mileage allowance is way, way more than that granted to HM Forces.

By the way, be honest, how many of you know the name of your Euro MP?


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