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dlav 13th Jan 2006 11:47

Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Hello everybody, I was wondering if anyboy could help me out.

This time next week I have to do a talk on a Fast Jet Pilots Kit, and to be honest, im not exactly sure on what to say. I have a helmet, g-suit, oxygen mask etc etc

If anybody could give me any information about the above I would be very grateful, or any basic hints/advice.

Thanks

dlav

jimgriff 13th Jan 2006 11:56

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Boots, cotton or wool socks, long johns, immersion suit, life/survival jacket, gloves, big watch, sunglasses, cold weather jacket, flying suit (growbag), chinagraph pencil, change of underwear. The list goes on..........

Divergent Phugoid! 13th Jan 2006 12:01

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Now then, who would you be giving a talk to about FJ kit and why??

Been on Ebay have we sir? Seen the Will young vid have we sir?? mmmm.. All those men in flying suits..... Sir has a flying suit? And a helmet? Mmmmm suits you sir, suits you!
:E :E

dlav 13th Jan 2006 12:07

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
haha, yes Will Young .........:yuk:

Sorry, I should have said that I have the kit, and now I need some information about it. Im not a pilot, so therefore Im not in the know.

Any useful information on the kit, statistics, or generally anything that I could talk about for 10 mins in relation to a fast jet kit, that will prevent my audience from falling asleep :8

Cheers :ok:

Divergent Phugoid! 13th Jan 2006 12:11

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
I would have thought that the prospect of receiving a talk on flying kit was enough to send your audience off to the land of nod straight away!

I must remember not to attend one of your seminars! :ok: :ok:

Onan the Clumsy 13th Jan 2006 12:16

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Don't forget to mention that each flight suit has a large number on the back (by regulation), plus a smaller one on the front and on the sleeve. This is for use during combat practice and aerobatic displays and allows the referee tomake sure the correct name goes in his book should there be any infraction.

The affixation of sponsorship logos is still under discussion at the ministry.



but if you really want to keep the audience awake, take along a catalogue from your favourite S&M supplier and point out the similarities, making special note of the potential for 'breath play'.

dlav 13th Jan 2006 12:29

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Oh dear Onan, been a late night? Still thanks for that! :} :ok:

adr 13th Jan 2006 12:45

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Is that the kit used by a FJ pilot, or a kit to make a FJ pilot?

If the latter, there are many internet sites illustrating the equipment required and the techniques to be employed, and your audience could probably stay awake for ten minutes.

If the former, one way of structuring your talk might be to show each pice of kit and explain how it keeps a pilot alive. "If it weren't for this, then if [scenario], [consequences]."

adr

plans123 13th Jan 2006 12:46

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Don't foget mirror, comb and hair gel!!!! :yuk:

dlav 13th Jan 2006 13:45

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
I have the Kit used by a FJ Pilot - now I just have to talk about it. This is the hard part!:confused: :uhoh:

c-bert 13th Jan 2006 13:51

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
I hear that regulators can be a tad awkward to clean after bouts of motion sickness...:uhoh:

movadinkampa747 13th Jan 2006 13:52

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
The hard part will be staying awake. This is what your audience will look like.

:hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
:hmm: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:
:ugh: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

dlav 13th Jan 2006 13:59

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
haha. well this is why Im trying to do abit of research to find out from the professionals, so that my audience wont end up looking that!








I hope............

movadinkampa747 13th Jan 2006 14:04

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
What exectly do you want to say? One thing to do is to pick on the fattest person in the audience and make them put the kit on..............


:hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:
:uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh: :uhoh: :eek:
:sad: :sad: :yuk: :zzz: :zzz:

If its any help try here

http://www.rfd.co.uk/rfd%5FDefence/

This is Beaufort who make flying clothing.

dlav 13th Jan 2006 14:15

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Im planning to dress somebody up in the kit, and then I want to talk abut the kit as much as possible.

Explain all the parts etc.

Problem is, I dont know much about the kit, so I need advice on how to talk about it and explain it:zzz:

movadinkampa747 13th Jan 2006 14:28

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Try this to start your talk.
Suit Up for Safety.

Why do I need to wear personal protective clothing and equipment?

Let's give it some thought. The human body is amazing. We have a head and

brains for thinking; ears for hearing; eyes for seeing; a nose for detecting

odors; a mouth for talking and eating; lungs for breathing; arms, elbows, knees

and legs for lifting and bending; hands and fingers for dressing and feeding

ourselves and for writing; legs for walking and running; and feet and toes for

support and balance. However, we can be easily cut, burned or blinded. We can

break bones, cut flesh, become deaf or blind, get scraped and suffocate.



These possibilities bring to mind the need for working safely and wearing

personal protective equipment and clothing.



We are all familiar with the game of football. We have either played it one

time in our lives or sat in front of the "boob tube" during fall and winter

weekends to watch it. Not many football spectators think of safety while

watching a game, but safety in football is real. It starts before the game in

the locker room when the team is suiting up. Players have to wear protective

equipment, which includes shock-absorbing helmets with face guards; mouth

pieces; shoulder pads; rib, elbow, knee and hip pads; and cleated shoes.

At times this equipment becomes uncomfortable, but the players know that the

game is quite rough and injuries can occur. If they want to play in the next

week's game, they wear this personal protective equipment. After all, players

are not much good when they're sidelined with injuries.



Real pros realize this fact and figure out the odds. When they wear personal

protective equipment, their chances of getting through the game without a

disabling injury are much greater. Therefore, their chances of continuing as

successful football players without suffering injuries are greater. Discomfort

and inconvenience do not mean a thing to them.



Like football players, employees may work on a job that requires personal

protective equipment, such as safety glasses, safety shoes, gloves and hand

pads, hearing protection, hard hats and respirators. Personal protective

equipment cannot prevent an accident from occurring, but safety equipment can

prevent serious injuries.



We realise that safety glasses, safety shoes, gloves, ear plugs, hard hats and

respirators are kind of a nuisance to put on and wear and may seem rather bulky

and uncomfortable.



Most of the time, if personal protective equipment is properly fitted, it's

just a matter of getting used to wearing it. This is a lot easier to adhere to

when we remember that, like football players, we stand a better chance of

continuing successfully with our jobs and home lives if we are protected from

possible serious injuries by personal protective equipment.

Mr C Hinecap 13th Jan 2006 14:28

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Unless your audience are all aircrew as well, the audience will :zzz: anyway.
If you have everything, do you have the issue ego too? :E

Ewan Whosearmy 13th Jan 2006 14:32

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
Dlav
If you want people to help, then you need to provide more information:
Who is the audience? School kids, University students, the local Rotary? Knowing this will define the level of information they'll be able to absorb.
What kit do you have (type of mask, helmet, age and date of manufacture, country of origin etc.)? If you are giving a generic lecture then some of this doesn't matter, but if you want to add small details to your discussion of the MBU-20P mask you own (for example) you could explain how it incorporates support for pressure breathing, which forces oxygen into the pilot's lungs to help counter the physiological effects of high-gs. This is just an example, but until you take time to giive us details, we can't help...

propwash866 13th Jan 2006 15:04

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 
As a previous holder on 100 Sqn, giving talks on AEA and the jet was pretty much my bread and butter. Other posters here are right, your talk needs to be good or people start catch some Z's. I imagine you're perhaps talking to ATC cadets? Generally, the best solution is to find a willing volunteer to dress up, to save embarrassment don't pick a fattie or someone who's obviously not going to fit into the kit. Talk through the kit from the bottom up, starting with the G pants. Talk briefly about how they work (by squeezing the wearer's legs and stomach, forcing blood back up to the head under G.) This can be demonstrated by blowing into the hose, but be sure not to cut your lip on the connector, as doing so can cause considerable embarrassment during the rest of your talk!

LSJ next, makes you float, holds survival kit, protects neck blah-de-blah, then helmet assembly. Nb modern FJ helmet & mask without NVG or anything special like that is worth ~ £1200.

To be honest, unless you're a Squipper or aircrew who uses the kit regularly, I think you'll find it incredibly hard to speak with any authority about the kit, simply because unless you have first hand experience of the kit in use, there's no way for you to know enough about the practicalities and intricacies of its use to sound interesting. A talk on a dry(ish) subject like that really has to consist of a lot of practical hands-on and a fair bit of personal experience, example being a mate who had a birdstrike and was saved by the helmet/mask combination, or the experience we know all too well of pressure breathing in the chamber at Henlow. Sorry I can't be of much more assistance mate!

movadinkampa747 13th Jan 2006 15:09

Re: Fast Jet Pilot Kit
 

Originally Posted by propwash866
to save embarrassment don't pick a fattie or someone who's obviously not going to fit into the kit. Talk through the kit from the bottom up.....................

Ooh no fun propwash!!!!!
Start from the bottom? Does my bum look big in this g-suit?

:} :} :} :bored: :bored:
:uhoh: :uhoh: :mad: :mad: :mad:
:8 :8 :ooh: :sad: :sad:


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