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Ewan Whosearmy 23rd Dec 2005 10:29

Why?
 

Quite why people choose to mock from the outset such a massively successful (potentially) UK deal which will benefit the taxpayer, industry, and yes, the RAF, is beyond my simple understanding. Slush fund? Saudi procurement capability? I care not.
Perhaps it's because some people have morals and are prepared to make them known?

jindabyne 23rd Dec 2005 10:54

Ewan

Perhaps. But I wouldn't apply such rhetoric to my implied targets!

soddim 23rd Dec 2005 12:47

jindabyne,

But you would give the Saudis the benefit of any doubt?

Echo 5 23rd Dec 2005 16:10

Ewan Whosearmy ,

" Perhaps it's because some people have morals and are prepared to make them known? "

Perhaps you would care to enlighten us as to why the sale of Typhoon to the RSAF is a moral issue.

backseatjock 23rd Dec 2005 17:25

Soddim: Smoking nothing. Am just one of those old fashioned types who believes that people (and companies) should be seen as innocent until proved guilty.

It's too easy to sling around accusations, especially if you happen to be a journalist, without any real foundation or hard evidence. The Guardian has been rolling out stuff like this for years.

Echo makes the point, why should selling Typhoon to RSAF be a moral issue. Totally agree. Re Saudi capabilities and knowing what a good piece of kit is - I think you will find the knowledge base in KSA is improving considerably.

DaveO'Leary 23rd Dec 2005 17:35

Corr look at this F22
 
Boring boring boring....... Lets chat the pros and consF22VF18....

Nice photo of the F22..........Air combat, who wins?....
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/dazdaz1/F22.jpg

Echo 5 23rd Dec 2005 17:55

Sorry Dave, you're off thread. There must be another thread somewhere that covers Spam products. We're talking Typhoon here.


Ewan Whosearmy,

We are waiting to be enlightened. :D

backseatjock 23rd Dec 2005 18:43

Dave: F-22 = superb capability at an unaffordable price (for almost everyone). I can't see export prospects, or ambitions, being high. And if it ever is exported, what technologies will an export customer have deleted from the spec!!

Even John Jumper acknowledged Typhoon to be one of the best aircraft he had ever flown!

RileyDove 23rd Dec 2005 19:58

Backseatjock - Interesting that journalists can sling accusations - however when they are from Whitehall like the infamous '45 minutes' claim on firing chemical weapons at us or the other contents of the 'Doggy Dosier' are the journalists still at fault?

PPRuNeUser0139 23rd Dec 2005 20:22

We don't pay bribes, we pay commission.

What's the difference..?

Timing.

What's the difference when it's steaming gently in your Swiss bank account?

engineer(retard) 24th Dec 2005 08:56

'Doggy Dosier' - That'll be the White House Xmas video then.

retard

backseatjock 24th Dec 2005 09:20

RileyDove: Fair point, but no excuse for either IMHO.

jwcook 25th Dec 2005 09:35

see here http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&sect...25&m=12&y=2005

the quote is

"In reply to another question on the jets deal with Britain, Prince Sultan said the Kingdom will purchase over 200 Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft. “We shall disclose the details by March next,” he added."

Bloody hell 200!!!

Cheers

Echo 5 25th Dec 2005 09:58

" Bloody hell 200!!! "


That's a lot of £££££££££££££'s. BAe should be able to cover the £2.4 billion black hole in the employees pension fund quite easily from these earnings.;)

Daysleeper 25th Dec 2005 09:59

Any bets on whether theirs will have a working gun and ammunition :hmm:

Jobza Guddun 25th Dec 2005 10:11


Any bets on whether theirs will have a working gun and ammunition
Well surely that order for 200 (can't see their requirement myself....) should bring the unit price down far enough for ours to have the whole shebang too, no? Maybe not.

Rakshasa 25th Dec 2005 20:03

Probably wind up being mostly from 'our' 200. ;)

Lima Juliet 25th Dec 2005 23:12

Rumour...
 
Before this deal was officially announced there were plans being worked on to slip the AD Tornado's OSD to 2011 - I guess Leuchars will keep its navs for a while longer...

...At least we'll get Tranche 3 jets instead of Tranche 2:ok:

Daysleeper 26th Dec 2005 07:32


At least we'll get Tranche 3 jets instead of Tranche 2
Nah they'll do something stupid like order more T2 jets for us instead of just going to T3 wait a moment


the MoD stresses that the RAF will receive additional Tranche 2 airframes

Father Jack Hackett 26th Dec 2005 15:01

"It is thought that up to 72 Typhoon jets will be delivered to the kingdom from 2008...."

Is it just me who is a little dubious of there still being a Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in 2008? Not sure Typhoon would sit well in Uncle Osama's future Orbat......


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