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Pontius Navigator 11th Jul 2005 17:49

And those who had done more than 40 years and didn't merit one.

jindabyne 11th Jul 2005 19:40

C'mon chaps - wouldn't you want grandma to let you have one. I would.

BEagle 11th Jul 2005 19:44

Grandma 'giving you one'? Doesn't bear thinking about....

Personally I think that those of us who'd been in the Service for both Silver and Gold Jellybeans should have been awarded an additional clasp for 25 years' service.

cazatou 11th Jul 2005 19:48

Vecvec,

May I take it that when you swore (as a solemn oath) allegience to HM the QUEEN, @ her Heirs & Successors; YOU LIED ON OATH?!!!

buoy15 12th Jul 2005 01:38

Looking closely at thread 1

Why is the dog opposite wearing the headress of the the "1772 Pikers and Lancers" when she is not entitled?

Gainesy 12th Jul 2005 05:34

Its all rather Thespian isn't it?

Wonder if they consult to avoid clashes before going to fish out their kit from the Dressing Up Box?

"Mama, may one be Colonel in Chief of the Queen's Own Herbaceous Borderers today?"

FJJP 12th Jul 2005 05:54

Didn't get the silver - didn't win the lottery.

Didn't get the gold - left 10 days too early.

Ce la vie...

brakedwell 12th Jul 2005 06:50

Come on chaps, show a little tolerance!
If the royal siblings feel the need to wear fancy dress covered in mummy's toy town medals let them have their fun. I presume Anne is still in Singapore, living on Satay and Tiger while awaiting the completion of her Admiral of the Fleet uniform!

Pontius Navigator 12th Jul 2005 07:06

On entitlement to wear ties etc,

I always felt uncomfortable flogging squadron patches etc to Joe Public at air shows. I underwent a 3 years of training and then a period as non-Op before I earnt my sqn badge - the first badge after my brevet to go on my flying suit.

Now the abos design their own patches and wear them on the flying suits from day one. While I applaud their desire to emulate the grown ups and the grown ups smile indulgently, I feel that it possibly devalues the sqn badge when they qualify.

Even had sqn bosses telling me to badge up as I was not conforming. Looked a bit sheepish when I said I would when I earned it.

The other slippery slope was the adoption of the American comedy patches. Remember ours were approved by the Monarch!

Do sqns still have ties?

vecvechookattack 12th Jul 2005 07:21


May I take it that when you swore (as a solemn oath) allegience to HM the QUEEN, @ her Heirs & Successors; YOU LIED ON OATH?!!!
.....

I have never sworn an Oath to allegience to HM the Queen. Why would I want to do that?

BEagle 12th Jul 2005 07:23

Proper squadrons still have ties!

At least in Eating Command we had 'squadron standard' uniform flying suits which weren't covered in Top Gun, Red Flag supporters club, TLP participant, 1000 missions over North Yorkshire, "I once saw a Tomcat" or other silly Christmas tree badges.

The Real Slim Shady 13th Jul 2005 01:22


No matter to whom you swear allegiance the fact is you do as parliament wills it. I do not want a republic in England
Sorry to leap in so late with a point of semantics/ pedantry, however ENGLAND seems a tad jingoistic !!

vecvechookattack 13th Jul 2005 11:03


More to the point, how about those that didn't get one because they had 'only' done 4 years while the rules were waved for Harry feel?
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what has 4 years got to do with it..???? If you were serving in the military at the time of the Golden Jubilee you are entitled to wear a GJ Medal....regardless of whether you have served for four years or four weeks.

The Rocket 13th Jul 2005 11:14

Don't know about entitlement to wear one, however, to be issued one, which is what this discussion is about, there is a definate qualification criteria

QUOTE:

The Golden Jubilee 2002 medal will be issued to the following personnel:

All personnel who are in paid effective military service with the Royal Navy, Royal Marines, Army and Royal Air Force on 6 February 2002, who have completed 5 calendar years service and were enlisted on or before 7 February 1997.
All personnel who are in effective military service with the Volunteer Reserve Forces on 6 February 2002, completed five annual bounty earning training years and were enlisted on or before 7 February 1997. One of the bounty years must have been the year 2001-2002.
A member of the Regular Reserves who is in military service on 6 February 2002 become eligible if their aggregated Regular and Voluntary service amounts to the 5 year qualification period.
Any member of the Military Provost Guard Service whose MPGS paid service equates to the 5 year qualifying period.
Contracted Royal Fleet Auxiliary personnel in service on 6 February 2002 who have completed the 5 years qualifying period.
Cadet Officers and Cadet Adult Instructors with a total of 5 training years service, providing the service period includes 6 February 2002 and they are part of an established post. The person must have started on or before 7 February 1997 and the year 2001-2002 must be part of the service period.
A member of the 'front line' emergency services, accessed via the telephone number 999, who have completed a minimum of 5 years reckonable service on 6 February 2002. The emergency services include the Police, Fire and Ambulance Services, the Coastguard, Royal National Lifeboat Institution and Mountain Rescue services.

vecvechookattack 13th Jul 2005 11:17


The Golden Jubilee 2002 medal will be issued to the following personnel:
....
the key word here is ISSUED. If you were serving during those periods you got a free one. However, if you were not serving during those periods BUT were serving during the period 2001/2002...then you are entitled to wear one BUT you have to buy it yourself.....

BR81 refers

The Rocket 13th Jul 2005 11:26

As I said, I am unsure of entitlement to wear one, but the point of this argument is that there are many people out there who have missed out on receiving a medal, despite putting in many years of service. Some by retiring early, some by joining just too late.

I have no personal axe to grind with this, I can just see both sides of the argument.

vecvechookattack 13th Jul 2005 14:16

What a load of george that argument is......




despite putting in many years of service. Some by retiring early, some by joining just too late.
Sadly Im the same. I joined too late to receive a WW1 campaign medal and sadly I will retire before GW3. So why cant I have a medal.

The fact of the matter is that The Earl of Wessex as a serving member of HM Military is entitled to wear a Medal. Same as Harry does

brakedwell 13th Jul 2005 14:39

Enlighten me vecvechookattack. Exactly what branch of the services does Eddie the Earl of Wessex serve in, or is this info too hush hush for us to know?

Biggus 13th Jul 2005 15:50

Vec.......

And Harry? Ah yes, I was forgetting he was in the CCF at Eton!!!


But then again he has been in the Army now for about 2 weeks!!!

vecvechookattack 13th Jul 2005 16:19

The Earl of Wessex is a colonel of the Wessex Yeomanry.



Yep, Harry has been in the Army for two weeks....but many many Years ago I had been in the Navy for 2 weeks as well....


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