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ZH875 14th Jan 2005 11:13

Senior Service - FAGS, or mere cigarettes.

BEagle 14th Jan 2005 13:37

Hmm - quite a big haul this time, it seems. :p Well it is Friday after all!

And long may Jackspeak remain alive!

Ah - harr, me hearties!

Glad to hear though that the wearing of uniform 'ashore' is encouraged. Pride in the cut of one's jib, what! And bloody right too!! I got sick to death of skulking into work..going aboard or whatever..pretending not to be in the RAF. Mind you, I suppose it did stop people asking me to fix their damn cars!

TwoTunnels 14th Jan 2005 13:42

Sorry for getting back to the original theme of the thread, but I also went to clothing stores to get the new No1s. While waiting for the tailor I noticed other 'money well spent' ideas on various posters including: -

1. 'Royal Air Force' name badges for use on DPM.
2. Revamped rank badges, including the new over the top WO slides, all with Royal Air Force embroidered below stripes/props/crest.
3. New water proof (blue). I imagine to replace the Geltex jacket.
4. RAF colours 'square' for DCC clothing.

Do we really need this?

It's good to see that they will all be procured at 'best value for the taxpayer'

Jack Stirrop 14th Jan 2005 14:10

Heaven help us - best I get myself along to Clothing Stores right away!!

Whatever next - NBC Pyjamas perhaps??

Jack

SirToppamHat 14th Jan 2005 14:53

Two Tunnels

Where oh where are you based? You seem to have found a clothing stores that not only has items for issue, it has staff that want to issue said items!

What's the gen on these new badges for CS95 shirts and jackets? Presumably one simply drops off one's shirts etc with the tailor and collects when badges attached?

STH

SVK 14th Jan 2005 15:09

Well, I might not be able to get any gucci kit from stores; or actually get to keep anything useful (like Body Armour) before stores wants it back but...

....today I was given my very shiny, very thick, no doubt costly, individual copy of AP3003 'A Brief History of the Royal Air Force'.

Better than a Chest Plate or hot water in the mess any day!

Big Cat Handler 15th Jan 2005 04:59

Does the trendy new RAF rucksack mean it will now be permissible to carry a bag over one's shoulder whilst in uniform? Standards are clearly slipping!

JessTheDog 15th Jan 2005 10:14


Sorry for getting back to the original theme of the thread, but I also went to clothing stores to get the new No1s. While waiting for the tailor I noticed other 'money well spent' ideas on various posters including: -

1. 'Royal Air Force' name badges for use on DPM.
2. Revamped rank badges, including the new over the top WO slides, all with Royal Air Force embroidered below stripes/props/crest.
3. New water proof (blue). I imagine to replace the Geltex jacket.
4. RAF colours 'square' for DCC clothing.

Do we really need this?

It's good to see that they will all be procured at 'best value for the taxpayer'
We've done this before!

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=137737

When morale suffers as the result of radical, senseless and unpopular cutbacks, the SOP is to throw money at "corporate identity" and "ethos". So we had some nice shiny new patches and rucksacks, and the discipline dial was turned up a notch or two ("force development") to sort out whingers!

This was at the time I was clearing my desk, ready for civviedom. And it is great!


Does the trendy new RAF rucksack mean it will now be permissible to carry a bag over one's shoulder whilst in uniform? Standards are clearly slipping!
At the time I was leaving, there was a reissue of the AP on dress standards (can't remember the name) which focused on such key issues as the length of one's sideburns. It was reassuring to see the RAF tackling the vital operational issues of the hour! In the revised AP, the rucksack posture was revised to allow compliments to be paid (Sir, you smell nice today) whilst carrying the rucksack over the left shoulder by one strap. It may have made mention of the "new" RAF rucksack.

Stupid Boy 15th Jan 2005 16:12

My good lady just showed me hers, then told me about the new rucksack! I have been trying to sum up the issue of the new rucksack using my limited vocabulary and the only word I can come up with is 'obscene'. I hope the unlucky people who find themselves made redundant manage to get theirs before their exit date. It will certainly soften the blow........ :mad: :mad:

BEagle 15th Jan 2005 17:14

The only rucksack I knew was called Kelvin......

An absolute zero carried by everyone.

Are these unisex shoulder bags some warry thing? Or intended to replace brief cases, nav bags etc?

'Thrombo' (as in 'wandering clot'), an unlamented previous Stn Cdr at the Covert Oxonian Aerodrome, was concerned that high-visibility cyclists' bags were 'unmilitary' FFS! Never mind being safer, they weren't NATO green or RAF blue - so were Something To Be Concerned About. True prattishness of an impressive calibre!

The Rocket 15th Jan 2005 19:01

What's the Jackspeak for all this "Hunting for the golden rivet" that you sailors seem to be so fond of?

:E

airborne_artist 15th Jan 2005 19:14


Are these unisex shoulder bags some warry thing? Or intended to replace brief cases, nav bags etc?
Having seen one at close hand it is clear that they are designed to keep a pair of jump leads, torch and toolkit so that you RAF / RAC types are always ready to undertake immediate car repairs etc. and save me from having to join the AA .....

OKOC 15th Jan 2005 21:34

Airborne artist.

The AA wear brown-it's the RAC wot wear "RAF" blue-do buck up 007!

SirToppamHat 15th Jan 2005 21:41

Catch up guys, the RAC haven't worn blue for years. They wear mostly orange.

Now then, back to that golden rivet question ....

Always_broken_in_wilts 16th Jan 2005 13:36

STH,

You may struggle to get an answer over the weekend as most of our navel chums have probably spent the 48 hour period "fitting" the said item you are enquiring about:E

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

airborne_artist 16th Jan 2005 14:18


You may struggle to get an answer over the weekend as most of our navel chums have probably spent the 48 hour period "fitting" the said item you are enquiring about
More to do with the fact that the Royal Navy is still a 24/7*52 organisation, unlike some branches of the services that stack at 1500 Friday until 0800 Monday.

circle kay 16th Jan 2005 17:35

airborne_artist

Oh, that’s why all the Gray Funnel Line are all well inside the breakwater by 1130 on a Friday because the RN is 24/7*52:p

All the services have duty and stand-by 24/7 not just the dark blue. How long to get the stand-by FFG to Sea?;)

SirToppamHat 17th Jan 2005 21:34

Saw the new coats today. Who chose that colour? To paraphrase my hero:

'Almost, but not quite, exactly the wrong shade of blue.'

Still, at least they've sorted out the epaulettes so we will be able to see the new rank tabs when they start to arrive.

And the new rucsacks, erm, what exactly was the requirement? What is it meant to be for? I suppose it will be OK for Hat Minor to put his PE kit in. Useless for his older brothers, who would only get the p1ss taken by the Army kids at their school!

Anyone seen any of this stuff on EBay yet?


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