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Winkiepinkie 1st Mar 2004 19:27

Battle of Britain fighter ace
 
I was reading somewhere about a WWII pilot by the name of Eric Lock a few days ago. What really caught my attention is that this little fella was the highest ranking pilots of the Battle of Britain (in terms of enemy aircraft shot down). But who has ever heard of him? Not only, he is totally overshadowed by the likes of Douglas Bader who had a less impressive record.

Has anyone heard of him and if not where can I go to find out more about Eric Lock himself and what might have happened to him the day he was shot down. Would the MOD have any useful info, or are there any societies that deal directly with this sort of stuff.

Any pointers would be great. Ta in advance.

Spur Lash 1st Mar 2004 19:59

http://www.bbc.co.uk/shropshire/feat...ric_lock.shtml

Link above to BBC site, first hit from a google search.

He was quite a lad. Not quite 22 years old when he died for his country.

Archimedes 1st Mar 2004 20:23

Try 'Aces High' by Christopher Shores (first edition 1966, rare as Hen's Teeth; later edition 199?, Grub Street).

There are a whole host of 'aces' not really well known - argubaly 'Pat' Pattle has never had the attention his record merits, and there are several who had scored in the 20s who are barely known.

Datcon 2nd Mar 2004 02:29

Interesting discussion
 
- in the Private Flying forum.

Someone's got a big chip about mil pilots. :rolleyes:
Check out the 'Ultimate High' thread, posts today.

D.

dinoorin 6th Mar 2004 04:40

not sure if it is the same Lock - but Sleap aero club (Wem, Shropshire) has the Lock lounge named after a WW2 ace. Long time since I have been there but may give you a leed.
Fly safely, Chris

:)

teeteringhead 7th Mar 2004 18:48

dinoorin
Yes, the Sleap lounge is named after Eric Lock. They (Sleap) may have more info, or try the CRO at RAF Shawbury - Shawbury knows a lot about Eric Lock, and are I believe still in contact with his family who are still in the Shropshire area.

Winkiepinkie 9th Mar 2004 23:39

Thanks for the replies gents. I have to confess to being fortunate enough to met his sister (some 10 years ago), and view/hold his last letters and medals. Nothing short of amazing.

But there seems to be very little info in relation to what actually happened on his final flight and where he went down. Thanks for the replies regarding info on the web, but I’m after info on where I might be able to go to find a bit more in-depth stuff. I find it hard to believe there is so little on Britain’s highest scoring pilot of the Battle of Britain.

This may sound stupid, but I’m toying with the idea of trying to find the wreck of his aircraft.

Thank you all one again for the replies.

Another Pat 16th Mar 2004 12:41

Hi guys,

Sorry to interrupt, but I'm the BBC producer who wrote the piece about Eric Lock.

As an amateur mil history researcher, the idea of finding Eric Lock's Spitfire has also crossed my mind, but not sure quite how to go about it.

For a start, I could find very little information other than his aircraft went missing over the Pas de Calais and the date, 3rd August 1941.

Personally, I think it's a tragedy that Lock has no grave, yet it can't be that difficult to find him.

The Luftwaffe kept records on Allied aircraft that crashed in 'their' territory and there can't have been too many crashing in that area on that day. Also, it's my suspicion that the wreck, assuming it came down on land, must be located in countryside, as any post war development would have unearthed it.

I'd be most interested in hearing from any of you who get anywhere with this, as I'd like to bring 'closure' to the story, especially while Eric Lock's sisters are still alive.

And while I'm here, I'm also researching for a series of features on Shropshire's WWII training airfields, and any extra info or contacts you may have would be handy.

You can email me from my profile, or reply here.

Cheers,

Pat

Winkiepinkie 17th Mar 2004 09:45

Hi Pat, did you get my mail? I'm not sure if Pprune managed to send it or not.

W

Another Pat 17th Mar 2004 16:16

Yep, I got it, thanks - three times! ;-)

Have now replied.

P

Zoom 17th Mar 2004 18:43

Winkie and A Pat

Good luck in your missions and please keep us posted. Lots of interesting and remarkable stuff from WW2 appears to be surfacing at the moment.

Another Pat 27th Mar 2004 14:45

Thanks for that, Zoom.

Seeing as you guys seemed to like the Eric Lock feature, I thought there might be some interest in what we've just published on the Great Escape.

Two of the escapers were from Shropshire. One, Cyril Swain, was among the 50 murdered men, while the other was Jimmy James, the only Great Escaper to attend the 60th anniversary commemorations at Zagan this week.

We've put his whole story on our website - he's quite a remarkable bloke.

Apologies for spamming, but here's a link or two:



Jimmy James - return to Zagan

The Great Escape

I hope they will be of interest.


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