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sabre1001 8th Dec 2003 01:28

How hard is it to become a British Army pilot?
 
I am in the army at the moment but i really want to get flying in the army. if anyone knows what criteria you need and what the training is like? , i would appreciate it. Thanks:mad:

SandChopper 8th Dec 2003 01:45

Criteria? Simple! Be a good soldier, like living in trenches, know you way around South Armagh and have a few handy insults to throw at the Crabs......;)

Why not leave the Army and join the Navy/RAF, after all the last line in the AAC brochure used to say ".......even if you fail RN and RAF selection the AAC will still have you."

Nuff said.

owe ver chute 8th Dec 2003 03:35

Sabre, look in the last issue of soldier magazine, the Army Air Corps had a page or so on how to become a pilot.
Age, rank, time to serve etc.
A rounded background tends to help, infantry to tanks, chefs to drop shorts, tthe Air Corps must have a least one of each.
At the moment I think the pilots course is taking about 18 months (could be longer) however the Grand Fromage wants to cut this down, it gets in the way of the officers career structure. It would also depend on what aircraft you convert to at the end of wings. extra 10 weeks for Gazelle course, 6 months plus for the AH64.

Little_Boy 8th Dec 2003 18:38

In 1995 the BBC ran a six-part television series called 'Flying Soldiers'. A book of the same title by Tim Lambert was published by BBC Books. It follows a course of ten going through Helo training with the Army.

It's obviously a bit dated now (in fact it's pre-DHFS etc.) However, I reckon it still gives a useful insight into the pressures of flying training and the AAC. I don't even know if it's still published, but I suggest if you can get your hands on a copy it would be a useful read.

Best of luck me olde'

MightyGem 9th Dec 2003 15:09

Even better, arrange a visit to Middle Wallop or an AAC Regt.

CrabInCab 9th Dec 2003 19:46

Sandchopper, it would appear that a knowledge of South Armagh is no longer necessary. Common sense has finally prevailed!
:ok:

student-mork 9th Dec 2003 22:41

Sandchopper,

Dont worry about whether you're good enough or if its too hard, just bang your tabs into your OC and get the ball rolling. Because...1) It doesnt cost you a penny
2) You may never have to walk across Brecon/Otterburn/Salisbury again.
3) It doesnt rain inside helicopters
4) Think of it as an 18 month resettlement course!
Best of luck with whatever you decide :ok:

student-mork 10th Dec 2003 00:00

Whoops!

Sorry, that was meant for sabre 1001. not sandchopper. I do hope that this doesnt detract from the "comic impact"
:O

mutleyfour 10th Dec 2003 01:16

Theres no shame in failing either.......what have you got to lose?

bigley 10th Dec 2003 03:08

Doesn't rain inside a helicopter? What rubbish, have you ever been inside Wessex or Puma on a typical NI day? You get wetter inside than out!!:O

EmeraldToilet 10th Dec 2003 05:20

Or a Gazelle for that matter !!!

student-mork 10th Dec 2003 19:23

Fair point there Bigley, it can get a bit wet, but the army is good enough to provide door gunners/ draught excluders. Always better than walking back in! But the important thing Sabre needs to ask himself is, out of everyone in that chopper, who is nice and toastie and whose covered in mud and cam cream? Not to mention who will be getting paid more at the end of the month!
;)

Tbird 10th Dec 2003 21:55

Sabre

If you want to fly then the above post if correct, go and see the AAC at Wallop and see what you think. The process is long, but well worth it. First you have to go and do your Pilot Aptitude test at Cranwell. If that is okay then go and talk to the Air Corps and they will put you through Army Flight Grading. This is a 3/4 week course, which aims to give you 13 hours instructional flying time in the Firefly.

At the end of that then you will be told whether they think you are good enough for the army pilots course. If all is well, then you are off to Barkston Heath to go and do another 40 hours on the Firefly. Then if you are successful there, its off to Shawbury to start your 80 hour basic rotary training. Once that is done, you are back at Wallop to do your advanced rotary course. At that point, if your successful you get your wings. Then you have to convert onto a chosen type. Not sure about the Gazelle or the Lynx, but AH conversion, last time i looked was 78 weeks.

Don't quote me on the timings etc, but i think most of that is currect. Hope it helps.

Tbird

Always_broken_in_wilts 10th Dec 2003 22:22

"but AH conversion, last time i looked was 78 weeks"

Is this still being done in a large hanger in Shropshire??:p :O

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

Gainesy 11th Dec 2003 00:04

78 or 7-8 weeks?

Training Risky 11th Dec 2003 00:47

To complete the quartet of helicopters that leak like sieves.... our 20-odd year old Chinooks give you wet legs as well:mad:

SunderlandMatt 11th Dec 2003 06:35

Sabre,

I'd advise you to ask the question again one the ARRSE site, like pprune only no crabs :ok:

Any further questions pm me and I'll be pleased to advise.

Always_broken_in_wilts 11th Dec 2003 12:31

"I'd advise you to ask the question again one the ARRSE site, like pprune only not quite as sophisticated"............lots of tatooed chaps f'in and blind'in......so very uncouth:p

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

BEagle 11th Dec 2003 15:04

Abiw - that's no way to talk about the Umpty-umpth Queen's Own Chinless Pwancers......;) Whose wedgimental twaditions w@nk amongst the highest in the land, don't you know.

ARRSE has all sorts of jolly interesting threads - such as "CS95 shirt, worn in or outside the waist".....really:ugh:!

Always_broken_in_wilts 11th Dec 2003 15:24

And those timeless classics "Abusing the RN!" and W@ank Yank Rank:p

The high levels of sophistication within those hallowed walls is nothing short of inspirational................or is it high levels of of tatooed f@ck wittedness............made up word I know:O

Been up for 26 hours now, just got back from a trip to V813 if memory serves me correct, and it was raining..........as opposed to its about to or it's just stopped, the Emerald Isle is nothingmore than a pustule of the bottom of mankind............rambling over

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced


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