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Grimweasel 10th Sep 2003 04:44

NEW C130 Variant seen in Wilts!!
 
New C130 variant seen this week at secret Wilts airbase. The new C130G Mk4 seems to be a secret foray into the world of the noiseless Hercules Glider! I just wonder why the enginless beast is not being activley towed around the world by the new C17 fleet. Worked for Op Market Garden. Is this model made of wood too?????

StopStart 10th Sep 2003 07:10

If it all goes to plan we expect to have a full fleet of these by early next year.

As we understand it, they will be towed into battle by the MK3B Bendcules.

:ok:

TAC Queen 10th Sep 2003 14:18

STOP START
In reply to your post, all the extra kit they have shoe horned on to the bendcules is excellent, unfortunately they have now found you cannot actually fit any crew on. Apparently the next mod will incorporate the crew sitting in the wheel well using highly trained fairies to move the controls (like the J). This will solve all the problems in one stroke. There has also been the suggestion of the Nav’s bringing their caravans to help balance out the front!

All spelling mistakes are because I can’t spell
:uhoh:

T_Handle 11th Sep 2003 04:56

Are Mk4s the big ones or little ones!?!

As I understand it the 4s are big, so someone has stolen two great big chunks of the fuselage of the stealth glider then stuck it back together with out anyone noticing!

Or is it just inacuracies in the prejudice?:}

Roland Pulfrew 11th Sep 2003 05:35

Anyone got any pictures of the J-Glider?:)

StopStart 11th Sep 2003 06:02

Course there aren't any pictures! Top Secret you know.

If pictures got out Lord Hutton would be even busier.....Grimweasel would have to take a walk out into the woods and not come back - if you get my drift.

T-handle - you are correct. The MK4 is the longer version.

The Mk5s were chosen as the basis for the glider as they are shorter and lighter and hence easier for the Bendcules to tow into battle. When I say battle, I mean Akrotiri.



As I understand it we're all soon to be issued with red noses and spinning bow ties to complete the effect.

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/silly.gif

RoboAlbert 11th Sep 2003 17:17

We don't need red noses SS, remember that trip in the states when the RAF police girl pointed out to us that we were in fact the comedy clown flying club - such insight after only a few moments on headset!:p

Grimweasel 12th Sep 2003 04:42

No chance of the Bendcules towing the Jlider into battle. All that xtra weight down the back will cause terrible trim problems!!!!! (ie. It may cause the thing to trim and be useful!!)

ZH875 12th Sep 2003 05:45

Easy one to solve. To retrim, simply put more pies on the flight deck. Aircraft Happy, Loadie even happier.

DummyRun 12th Sep 2003 09:48

SS

Sorry to pull you up on a trivial point old boy, but you did appear to omit the rather nice, long flappy boots with the curly up toes! apparently one would'nt be seen DEAD without those at ARSEc't Ops these days ( well, apart from the kweel nu guys at BZN )

Sorry, lost the thread slightly, ZH 875, didn't I batter your backend a bit firmly in somewhere stanlike, if you can't recall it we can do that PM thang.

As for the weight on the flightdeck, what's wrong with a STANEVAL Capt checking the OCU Capt checking the Capt whilst the STANEVAL nav is checking the instructor nav checking the stude nav + Eng di da di da, you pointy guys missed a trick, how can you possibly trap the checkers without at least a 4 seat Tornado !!!! SLAP,- Doh, Sorry we've always done it like that in 48/6?/38/1/38/2 Gp, why train for excellence when you can fudge for compurtense.

Load Moving.............

Impiger 13th Sep 2003 00:47

At least the glider version will be able to use max continuous .. er .. continuously.

Grimweasel 13th Sep 2003 04:19

Seen Air Forces Monthly this month? Go to the attrition page and look at the Israeli C130 that was opened up by the No.4 engine Prop coming loose!! I would never sit between the red lines that say "Danger Propeller Blades!!!"

I take it that the Airships deem it too risky to have the same thing happenig to the new J fleet. The solution is to take the damn engines off and turn 'em into gliders. It's all so clear now!!!

Surditas 13th Sep 2003 07:46

There's been a J model glider parked at RAAF Richmond for a couple of years now. In the true RAAF way we are ignoring an off the shelf solution and pressing ahead with developing our on piece of kit. It will be in service ten years after it was originally meant to be, won't do what it was designed to do and will eventually be modded with off the shelf kit so that it fits in with our combined ops with the Yanks.

Noble Lox 14th Sep 2003 01:03

I think it's a shame that what should have been a wonderful aeroplane is reduced to scrap metal and is now only good for melting down and making bean cans.

I can't help but having a wry smile at all the route queens who thought they were onto something special, including the monkeys who parked in a ditch in Kenya last week.;)

Rumours are afoot about the big meltdown which can't happen soon enough. Then at least the decking and the new patio will get some use as we'll all have :mad: **all to do - like it was before.

Just popping down Sainsbury's for a bulk order of pies.:=

Bring on the A400 and then we'll have a proper aeroplane! They told me it's great!!!

BEagle 14th Sep 2003 01:11

It will be! If the 130Js and Ks can keep going for that long, of course!

Then there'll be C17, A400M and the transport capability of FSTA - and the C130 will be pensioned off after an enormously long and impressive career coping with all the $hitty jobs that were thrown at it.

(Even if it is $odding awful in the passenger role!)

Noble Lox 14th Sep 2003 02:26

Get with the programme Beags - thats what this is all about, the mighty J is turning into a glider as its consuming engines quicker than 24 Sqn eat pies, and at the current rate will be lucky to make it to the end of the week:ugh:
The old rattlebus K has had a small fortune spent on it and is rumoured to be projected to early part of the next decade.
Meanwhile back at the pie eating establishment in darkest Wilts ..............that will close 2010 !! those with a brain are starting to look for jobs that suit themselves, and there are 2 engineless crocks of s*** parked on bays with small numbers out of sight.
The boss put a flying suit on his mangy,epileptic dog last week and posted it to BZN ,apparently its doing well on the 10 Groundschool, but it is a champion at putting its nose up seniors b*****m's:D :D :D

:sad: :sad: :sad:

BEagle 14th Sep 2003 03:17

Actually, my Noble Lux, originally I penned:

"It will be! If the 130Ks can keep going for that long, of course!"

..then thought that perhaps that was a bit mean on RoboAlbert, Stoppers and others who have to cope with the digitally re-mastered 130 on a day-to-day basis! So I changed it to "C130Js and Ks"...

C130J - there's 'smart procurement' for you:yuk: Even people involved in the project allgedly resigned as they refused to tell any more lies for Lockheed. "You CANNOT BE SERIOUS......" Perhaps some of you will recognise the significance of this quotation?

Oh - and the mangy dog gave up its rectal exploration efforts - it kept getting kicked in the chops by the ankles of those who were already deeply inserted!;)

Noble Lox 14th Sep 2003 03:40

Couldnt agree more........I do truly feel sorry for all those on the mighty Lockweed electric,singing,dancing jet as they have been sold a pup. Credit is due to them that they have got it so far and acheived so much and saved some senior backsides.
Talking of smart procurement, hot rumour is.........sell the little electric jets to assuage the furrowed brows of the bean-counters as it will offset the money spent on more ......drum roll please..............C-17's of course,now why didnt I think of that. Oh and as a complete aside -everything might (might) fit into BZN
As for the dog, well it made it back but its in a bit of trouble as it spent lots of 30Sqn SOCIAL fund on decking and stuff for a new patio. without asking the troops,who are revolting:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

juliet 14th Sep 2003 16:08

i wouldnt feel too sorry for j guys, we are still getting 60-80 hours a month and it all counts pretty well towards that atpl. if you do want to shed a tear though think of us only doing telic runs with two days off in between, very boring, could be worse, could be on the k having last flown a route in july

Little_Bee-eater 14th Sep 2003 18:58

Big Pie-eater
 
:(:8 Pups, epileptic dogs and revolting troops? Maybe you're a tad frustrated over there in Kandahar...


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