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Recognition of UK Military qualifications

Old 6th Jun 2024, 16:48
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Recognition of UK Military qualifications

The UK PM has said that, if he is returned to power, a new Veterans Bill will ensure military qualifications have an equal standing with civilian qualifications in law for the first time.

Including military pilot qualifications?

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sun...rsary-13148507

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I think most Veterans would prefer access to an NHS dentist or being able to get a GP appointment rather than £9 knocked off the price of a rail card.
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I think most Veterans would prefer access to an NHS dentist or being able to get a GP appointment rather than £9 knocked off the price of a rail card.
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A great idea...! Shame they did not manage it during the last 14 years they were in government really. Wonder how long it would take though, Veterans Cards only took 5 + after the announcement to arrive and even then they are not actually valid forms of ID for aanything useful like accessing a military base or voting!
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A great idea...! Shame they did not manage it during the last 14 years they were in government really. Wonder how long it would take though, Veterans Cards only took 5 + after the announcement to arrive and even then they are not actually valid forms of ID for aanything useful like accessing a military base or voting!
Why would you want to access a military base?
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Originally Posted by BEagle
The PM has said that, if he is returned to power, a new Veterans Bill will ensure military qualifications have an equal standing with civilian qualifications in law for the first time.

Including military pilot qualifications?

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sun...rsary-13148507
Sure, why not? Type rating, probably not, unless there is a civilian equivalent. Would it work the other way round with a civilian qualification being accepted by the military?
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We are in election chaos when each party will offer the world, then renege (quote no money in the till). Of course the Tories will offer fee gold bars as they will not have to honour that promise. In their situation, they can offer anything.
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How much does the admin cost to reduce the cost of a railcard by £9? Flash your credentials, get it free. Easy.
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I don't see a Mil ATCO licence reading across to Civ ATC.

Might work for an HGV driver, though.
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The UK military has always been poor at providing recognisable qualifications for those experiences you've gained and even the military courses you did (including those directly equivalent to a civilian one). At least you get given some fairly generous learning credits during resettlement to get some way to proper certification that's recognised by employers, although it doesn't always fully cover what you've dealt with.

For what it's worth I don't believe any "pledges" around this time. Pledges made during an election are entirely empty, since nobody is held to them any more, especially in the last decade, (the era of "post truth").

"50 new hospitals" was the last big promise wasn't it? I bet those that voted for that weren't aware that a lick of paint in an existing and delapidated hospital would count as a "new hospital".
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Will my ISS count?
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I can just see the former infantryman in the job centre....

'Qualifications?'

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There was an RSM on my resettlement course. When asked what his skills were he replied “shouting”.
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Unfortunately this thread is moot. The Tories are going to be utterly annihilated in a few weeks. Anything they say or promise is absolutely meaningless.
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There used to be an Air Support Command Exemption, which allowed the issue of an ATPL as long as you did a flight test on a civvy type and passed Aviation Law. That was lost some time ago though, but not before It got me my (never used) ATPL(H) in 1973 for the cost of a bottle of decent malt for Taff W.

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When I left in 1990 my military flying hours were accepted by the CAA and all I had to do was an exam "crammer" course at the City of London Poly. That was my resettlement course (i.e. no charge to me), and I was accommodated at Regents Park barracks.

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There also used to be a formula for increasing military hours to reflect taxi-time. Not much good aboard a carrier though!

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Originally Posted by Nigerian Expat Outlaw
When I left in 1990 my military flying hours were accepted by the CAA and all I had to do was an exam "crammer" course at the City of London Poly. That was my resettlement course (i.e. no charge to me), and I was accommodated at Regents Park barracks.

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And then you pitched up in Aberdeen for a Super Puma conversion, I recall!
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Originally Posted by Nigerian Expat Outlaw
When I left in 1990 my military flying hours were accepted by the CAA and all I had to do was an exam "crammer" course at the City of London Poly. That was my resettlement course (i.e. no charge to me), and I was accommodated at Regents Park barracks.

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Not far off the same mid-2000’s. In date QHI check on the Puma (still on civvy register then), some juggling of P1/P2 hours to meet CAA requirements, Air Law, Op Procedures and the bridging exam (FW of course, no RW bridging exam available so fully up to speed on North Atlantic tracks and 737 fire extinguishers…), Class 1 medical from Dougie Wyper in the Med Centre at Benson (no payment permitted, so a modest contribution to Tea Bar funds instead). ATPL(H) followed on completion of L2 type rating. Bob’s your uncle.
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Not far off the same mid-2000’s. In date QHI check on the Puma (still on civvy register then), some juggling of P1/P2 hours to meet CAA requirements, Air Law, Op Procedures and the bridging exam (FW of course, no RW bridging exam available so fully up to speed on North Atlantic tracks and 737 fire extinguishers…), Class 1 medical from Dougie Wyper in the Med Centre at Benson (no payment permitted, so a modest contribution to Tea Bar funds instead). ATPL(H) followed on completion of L2 type rating. Bob’s your uncle.
Presumably that was for the HC2?

Having managed to find a “gold dust” technical manual and having crammed up for the Puma tech exam (HC1 back then) I was told just before my attempt that the type (equivalent to J variant) was no longer on the U.K. register.
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There also used to be a formula for increasing military hours to reflect taxi-time. Not much good aboard a carrier though!

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Could you not count the time the boat was chugging along at 25kt while you crewed in as taxi time?
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