Armed Forces will miss Christmas this year to deal with strike fallout, says Rishi Su
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Armed Forces will miss Christmas this year to deal with strike fallout, says Rishi Su
If so, pay them the rate for the job they are covering, including overtime and also a one-off bonus for strike-breaking. Say £1000 a head, flat rate.
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But it's "Saviour of his country" when the guns begin to shoot."
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Happened over Christmas 1977 when the firemen went on strike.
It subsequently came to light that the armed forces personnel who stood in were on lower pay than the strikers.
It subsequently came to light that the armed forces personnel who stood in were on lower pay than the strikers.
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Quite right too, and every sleezy member of both houses should also be in over Christmas to show the Government is there to support them and working to resolve the problem! 
Still, Rishi will be able to sit and look at the new £1000,000 plus statue just bought for his garden.
Shy, a lot of people got HGV 3's out of it and quite a few then left the RAF. It was drive through some cones across Saints parade square, around the other set of cones, pull up licence issued, next man does the same the other way IIRC.
Still, Rishi will be able to sit and look at the new £1000,000 plus statue just bought for his garden.
Shy, a lot of people got HGV 3's out of it and quite a few then left the RAF. It was drive through some cones across Saints parade square, around the other set of cones, pull up licence issued, next man does the same the other way IIRC.
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N.B. With the Firemans' strike in '77 the Armed forces were very much bigger than now.The load was spread.over many more personnel.
Also the "48 hour" Firemans' week of course included their time on standby over two days a week
The Armed Services did 6 days a week "on" , one day off.......(3 times the hours IIRC of those they were replacing)
Also the "48 hour" Firemans' week of course included their time on standby over two days a week
The Armed Services did 6 days a week "on" , one day off.......(3 times the hours IIRC of those they were replacing)
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SAC (OR2-5) salary is approx 25K pa and a "competent" firefighter basic salary is 32K pa BEFORE overtime etc. Shameful.
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I gather Border Farce and an RAF SAC are on about the same pay. The former doesn't get shot at, and the latter lives in subsidised [sh*t] accommodation.
Complicated, innit?
Complicated, innit?
How about....you also plonk this in JB UK Politics ?....however, as you probably won't, if the Gov't were to start negotiating, offering realistic pay increases, that sort of thing...then everybody could have the Christmas leave....you may be saddened to learn this "strike breaking " probably won't involve marching forwards with fixed bayonets however.
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How about....you also plonk this in JB UK Politics ?....however, as you probably won't, if the Gov't were to start negotiating, offering realistic pay increases, that sort of thing...then everybody could have the Christmas leave....you may be saddened to learn this "strike breaking " probably won't involve marching forwards with fixed bayonets however.
Sorry, but a pay rise for anyone in the civil sector or the military even should not be a God given right, and I am ex military...
I know people that haven't had a pay rise in six or seven years, and are just glad they are still employed.
End of the day if anyone is not happy with their renumeration, look elsewhere, there are plenty that would be happy to fill your / their position.
Rant off.
As for having to work over the Christmas period, been there, seen it and done it, as a military singly, we would often volunteer to cover any duties, so those married guys amongst us could spend the day with their family and kids.
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I was a shift worker until age 43 and always tried to avoid Christmas Day because we attend Midnight Mass at 24th 2300. However, I volunteered for every day or night otherwise, and especially New Year.
The poor married ones of our armed forces do not have the luxury of volunteering to cover for strikers. Thank you, boys and girls, from a grateful old git!
I tell you what, how about going and telling all those employees of small companies that may not have had a payrise in several years due to Covid or the energy crisis as firms struggle to survive.
Sorry, but a pay rise for anyone in the civil sector or the military even should not be a God given right, and I am ex military...
I know people that haven't had a pay rise in six or seven years, and are just glad they are still employed.
End of the day if anyone is not happy with their renumeration, look elsewhere, there are plenty that would be happy to fill your / their position.
Rant off.
As for having to work over the Christmas period, been there, seen it and done it, as a military singly, we would often volunteer to cover any duties, so those married guys amongst us could spend the day with their family and kids.
Sorry, but a pay rise for anyone in the civil sector or the military even should not be a God given right, and I am ex military...
I know people that haven't had a pay rise in six or seven years, and are just glad they are still employed.
End of the day if anyone is not happy with their renumeration, look elsewhere, there are plenty that would be happy to fill your / their position.
Rant off.
As for having to work over the Christmas period, been there, seen it and done it, as a military singly, we would often volunteer to cover any duties, so those married guys amongst us could spend the day with their family and kids.
Anyhow, I thought we were going to be a high wage economy now we left the EU. Pretty sure that was the promise now we've been freed from all that pesky Eurocrat red tape. More pie in the sky.
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On your question though, how about raising Corporate Taxes and others to comparable rates to those in other G7 countries and or comparable OECD countries? As it is the UK government seems to be trying to make up for the self-imposed sanctions of Brexit by turning these islands into another tax-haven.
Perhaps if more tax was raised some more money could be thrown at Defence as well as Health, the latter which has the 2nd lowest funding per capita in the G7, btw.
But "boo Corbyn" etc, eh?
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Nuff said.
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