F35 pilots -
If somebody can find a way of selling the rights to watching air combat on live TV and also start selling Goose/Maverik T-shirts at the Squadron store outside the station gates then the comparisons with the likes of Haaland might be valid.
To continue that digression for a minute, agreed...Football finance has got more complex recently but the scale of pay in the Premiership originally was in part due to individuals (not society) being prepared to pay to watch football and then how that money was distributed - who got the biggest chunk - the players? board? Owners? and merchandise sales....It's widely believed Ronaldo's move back to MU was more about shirt sales than goals.
If somebody can find a way of selling the rights to watching air combat on live TV and also start selling Goose/Maverik T-shirts at the Squadron store outside the station gates then the comparisons with the likes of Haaland might be valid.
If somebody can find a way of selling the rights to watching air combat on live TV and also start selling Goose/Maverik T-shirts at the Squadron store outside the station gates then the comparisons with the likes of Haaland might be valid.
To continue that digression for a minute, agreed...Football finance has got more complex recently but the scale of pay in the Premiership originally was in part due to individuals (not society) being prepared to pay to watch football and then how that money was distributed - who got the biggest chunk - the players? board? Owners? and merchandise sales....It's widely believed Ronaldo's move back to MU was more about shirt sales than goals.
If somebody can find a way of selling the rights to watching air combat on live TV and also start selling Goose/Maverik T-shirts at the Squadron store outside the station gates then the comparisons with the likes of Haaland might be valid.
If somebody can find a way of selling the rights to watching air combat on live TV and also start selling Goose/Maverik T-shirts at the Squadron store outside the station gates then the comparisons with the likes of Haaland might be valid.
Spend lots of money on slick advertising, what could go wrong?
took a while till I got to the version I think you are alluding to. It came after:
queep noun
To emit a "queep" sound.
But then got to: Annoying or senseless bureaucratic requirement.
Every day is a school day.
queep noun
- A rowing event, with two scullers and two sweepers per shell.
- The sound a bird may make, similar to peep, chirp, cheep.
- The sound a machine may make, similar to beep. See pocketa-queep
To emit a "queep" sound.
But then got to: Annoying or senseless bureaucratic requirement.
Every day is a school day.
Last edited by Roland Pulfrew; 4th Nov 2022 at 14:43.
I looked up ‘queep’ using an online dictionary and I got a very different definition indeed. Then I realized the last letter should have been a ‘p’ and not an ‘f’.
Must get new glasses.
Must get new glasses.
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50 years ago we had an excellent training system that had been honed via CFS for over 50 years. Then the Educators and the bean counters got their hands on it and it went downhill rapidly. We taught flexibly and without the US inflexible areas. Instructors came from many roles and imparted the corporate knowledge and a work hard play hard ethic. It is now a characterless sausage machine with no flexibility.
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news.sky.com/story/uk-has-more-f-35-fast-jets-than-pilots-to-fly-them-ben-wallace-admits-12735825
23 jets in the UK, more than 1 per pilot. Interesting that "the defence secretary described the situation as "quite a challenge", claiming that the deficit in pilots was also because the F-35 Lightning aircraft is new" What is his definition of new ?
Have China got more aircrew than we have?
(Mods, feel free to move to one of the other threads on F35 or training if you feel its more relevant)
news.sky.com/story/uk-has-more-f-35-fast-jets-than-pilots-to-fly-them-ben-wallace-admits-12735825
23 jets in the UK, more than 1 per pilot. Interesting that "the defence secretary described the situation as "quite a challenge", claiming that the deficit in pilots was also because the F-35 Lightning aircraft is new" What is his definition of new ?
Have China got more aircrew than we have?
(Mods, feel free to move to one of the other threads on F35 or training if you feel its more relevant)
If we can not generate enough pilots for just 23 jets then something is badly wrong.
What is really astounding is that its only 23 jets "In 2006 the United Kingdom was expected to acquire 138 F-35s," That's 16 years ago for heavens sake. We'd have needed to order Hurricanes in 1921 for first delivery just before Munich 
Having been involved in things like this several times over the last 4 decades, both as an adviser and a practising departmental manager, I can assure you that any half decent industry or business would not have allowed itself to get into this situation in the first place! There would be strange things being done, like forecasting, model demand planning, attrition forecasting, output demand planning, scenario gaming and worst case scenario options. All of these things are alien to your average VSO, which explains why the RAF is in the current fix it is finds itself in, AGAIN!
It sacked 300 trainee aircrew not so long ago, it had retention schemes before that to keep people in, previous to that it had redundancy schemes to get rid of people...
It has massively reduced the value of being aircrew in terms of comparative salary, it has outsourced the responsibility for training output to a private consortium then dicked that consortium around in terms of required output. It has allowed the consortium to invest in tiny training fleets with no challenge or seeming interest.
On top of all this it has massively reduced annual and monthly flying hours. I spoke to 3 Typhoon aircrew recently whose main complaint was that they so rarely get to do what they joined up to do, fly! When I told them that back in my day I could expect a NATO minimum of 280 hours a year and would aim at 30 hours a month, and as a JP I could achieve that, albeit a bit more of a challenge for the more senior types, they were open mouthed. And on top of this they were also weary of constant detachments taking them away from home for lengthy periods, although they were happy with the flying rate on such, operational, detachments. And that is another key issue, whereas in my day we were a practising or rehearsing air force, today's RAF is a genuine war fighting operational force in which you will see action.
I realise that you are being a tad facetious in saying that it's not about the money, because it is, but surely it is also about absolutely crass decision making at the top by VSO's year after year and decade after decade.
Something Is rotten in the state of High Wycombe/Main Building.
It sacked 300 trainee aircrew not so long ago, it had retention schemes before that to keep people in, previous to that it had redundancy schemes to get rid of people...
It has massively reduced the value of being aircrew in terms of comparative salary, it has outsourced the responsibility for training output to a private consortium then dicked that consortium around in terms of required output. It has allowed the consortium to invest in tiny training fleets with no challenge or seeming interest.
On top of all this it has massively reduced annual and monthly flying hours. I spoke to 3 Typhoon aircrew recently whose main complaint was that they so rarely get to do what they joined up to do, fly! When I told them that back in my day I could expect a NATO minimum of 280 hours a year and would aim at 30 hours a month, and as a JP I could achieve that, albeit a bit more of a challenge for the more senior types, they were open mouthed. And on top of this they were also weary of constant detachments taking them away from home for lengthy periods, although they were happy with the flying rate on such, operational, detachments. And that is another key issue, whereas in my day we were a practising or rehearsing air force, today's RAF is a genuine war fighting operational force in which you will see action.
I realise that you are being a tad facetious in saying that it's not about the money, because it is, but surely it is also about absolutely crass decision making at the top by VSO's year after year and decade after decade.
Something Is rotten in the state of High Wycombe/Main Building.
