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Old 5th Feb 2023, 15:23
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Utter trash from the DT worthy of the Mail or Express.
Pretty much par for the course for that woman and that paper.
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Originally Posted by WillNorris81
Anyone else here know him directly?
Yes I did, when he was ACAS and I worked on the same floor plate in MOD MB.
He was utterly grey in his personality, he would smile at me but didn't seem to know how to interact with other humans. As he was in civvies all the time [as I was] I didn't even know who he was until months later.
When you had people like Rocky Rochelle visiting, a major whirlwind of personality and character, Mike Wigston by contrast became a nobody.
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Old 6th Feb 2023, 14:30
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Originally Posted by Nil_Drift
Yes I did, when he was ACAS and I worked on the same floor plate in MOD MB.
He was utterly grey in his personality, he would smile at me but didn't seem to know how to interact with other humans. As he was in civvies all the time [as I was] I didn't even know who he was until months later.
When you had people like Rocky Rochelle visiting, a major whirlwind of personality and character, Mike Wigston by contrast became a nobody.
An interesting contrast - Rocky Rochelle and Wokey Wigston....

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Old 6th Feb 2023, 16:32
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Originally Posted by idle bystander
Pretty much par for the course for that woman and that paper.
"I once dated a baby pilot 30 years ago and therefore am entitled to an opinion". Nearly as good as their "I failed OASC for leadership qualities but would have been a pilot if I wasn't white and male" article....

Utter trash
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I have re-read the article having rescued it from recycling. Without being a Tory [every party other than Green and Monster Raving Loony has either received my vote, or received serious consideration] I have been a D Tel reader fror over 60 years. It could just be because my wife "does the crossword" every day ........ the cryptic, and others. She finishes them most days.

I opine that the standard of content has gone sharply down the plughole in a short time. Not only typos but mammoth length sentences with random punctuation, but also no sub-editing or proofing. The journalism has now joined the race to the bottom, and the article referred to above was just silly. The author had a valid point ruined by a fatuous approach and shrill opinion.

As long as the British public are allowed to express judgement on a free press being silly, we remain a democracy.

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Yes - I worked with (not for) him at the same time as you did Will Norris. He seemed a nice enough guy - but certainly not as good (IMHO) as you seem to remember. It took an officer who was not even in his EAW to "suggest" that we had a GR 4 overfly the aircraft as the Sgt's coffin was carried onto the repatriation aircraft. "Good idea but I don't think we can arrange that"! Luckily I worked for "POD" (those that know - know) who was back at Al Udeid and so I put the issue to him personally at one of the weekly briefings I had to give him and it was sorted immediately. I think that Wiggy's nose was put out of joint and that may explain why, as the senior RAF officer at Basra COB, he left me hanging out to dry when an army 1* came after me because I had given a truthful answer to his 2* boss'. So, all in all, nice bloke but far too political to make a decision that may be considered "controversial"! Would I have followed him? Not even out of curiosity!
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Old 19th Feb 2023, 15:43
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I was in the Tower when this was being planned. I know first hand what went on behind the scenes to make the flypast happen without certain people knowing. There was a meeting every Friday with the various Warrant Officers and the Wg Cdr (C0S) and we had a lot to do with the event happening. Brought a smile and a tear when the GR came down the runway at exactly on time.
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https://news.sky.com/story/raf-boss-...veals-12851128

So…has he survived?
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
I have re-read the article having rescued it from recycling. Without being a Tory [every party other than Green and Monster Raving Loony has either received my vote, or received serious consideration] I have been a D Tel reader fror over 60 years. It could just be because my wife "does the crossword" every day ........ the cryptic, and others. She finishes them most days.

I opine that the standard of content has gone sharply down the plughole in a short time. Not only typos but mammoth length sentences with random punctuation, but also no sub-editing or proofing. The journalism has now joined the race to the bottom, and the article referred to above was just silly. The author had a valid point ruined by a fatuous approach and shrill opinion.

As long as the British public are allowed to express judgement on a free press being silly, we remain a democracy.

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LB, a good friend of mine has worked at the DT for many years and can testify to the plummeting standards of journalism there - mostly as a result of trying to save cash and having yes-men editors.
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Ready to push to the very edge of the law and break the force out of shape to achieve 10% by 2024 and 20% by 2030.”

Wow!
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Ready to push to the very edge of the law and break the force out of shape to achieve 10% by 2024 and 20% by 2030.”

Wow!
I thought the expression was bent out of shape.

FB
PS You're probably right about "break the force" clearly the World turns in a different direction to the way I thought it did. Lifting the ban on the opportunity to serve should be enough, trying to bend, or indeed, break the force, to completely alter the culture and character should not be a priority pursuit.

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Old 6th Apr 2023, 18:54
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Good luck to ACM Knighton sorting this mess out!
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The RAF 'made mistakes over its diversity and inclusion policy'

By Dominic Nicholls

Having spent his entire adult life in the RAF, Air Chief Marshal Sir Mike Wigston, the outgoing head of the service, could be forgiven for looking back to highlight past successes.

Far from it. Instead, Sir Mike was quick to warn of the danger of trying to spot one’s legacy “as you walk out the door”.

In conversation with The Telegraph ahead of his retirement next month, it was to the future of the RAF that he looked - even if he will not be in post to reap the rewards.

But he was also willing to reflect on the clouds that have blotted the sky during his tenure.

On his watch, the RAF went into a flat spin over the diversity and inclusion agenda.

He admitted mistakes were made over the recruitment and selection of personnel from under-represented groups.

“We were doing all we could to tackle this intractable problem, which is the lack of diversity in our service,” he said.

Of the 1,500 pilots in the RAF at the end of last year, only 30 were women and around 10 were from ethnic minorities.

Less than two per cent of the 8,500 engineers were from ethnic minorities and six per cent were women.

Only three per cent of the RAF as a whole came from an ethnic minority. Efforts to improve these figures and meet Chief of the Air Staff’s stated aim of having 40 per cent women and 20 per cent of personnel from ethnic minorities by 2030 were “flatlining”.

Mistakes resulted in the resignation of the senior officer responsible for recruiting and selection - something Sir Mike described as a “regrettable” outcome.

“One of the mistakes we made was that those aspirational goals filtered down into people's personal objectives in-year which they found almost impossible to meet,” he said.

“That put intolerable pressure on them and I've apologised to the recruiting and selection organisation.”

These episodes and the media criticism they drew were “tough for me personally”, he said, although he denied ever finding himself at a low ebb.

“You feel that responsibility because you're leading the organisation, it's natural, but no different to anyone else wearing the uniform,” he said.

“The resilience that comes from being a relentless optimist carries you a long way when you're in this position.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...e-wigston-raf/

A disgraceful final act. A semi-repentance when he should have been big enough to admit that he caused significant discrimination within the organisation and resigned. If there was ever clear evidence of systemic racism against white males within the RAF, this was it. The others that blindly followed it should also be leaving right now too, following Wokeston’s latest admittance. Those mentioned in these FOI emails are a good starting point:

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque..._passthrough=1

Quite rightly, the Nuremberg Defence of “I was only following orders” has legal precedent for being rejected and those that carried out the CAS’s direction should also be censured and held to account for one of the RAF’s unfinest hours.
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Old 27th May 2023, 09:36
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Oh please “systematic racism against white males” - a simple look at the numbers demonstrates how wrong you are snowflake.
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Old 27th May 2023, 09:49
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Originally Posted by alfred_the_great
Oh please “systematic racism against white males” - a simple look at the numbers demonstrates how wrong you are snowflake.
The numbers demonstrate nothing of the sort ........... unless the various minorities are being rejected after applying, the proportions merely illustrate a "coalition of the willing" ........ the proportions coming forward to join. I assume the RAF does not want the unwilling.

Possible exceptions which could have been pleaded in evidence are the lack of women aircrew, and the lack of very senior women, but these "issues" appear to be being addressed from a very low baseline.

Calling respondents "snowflake" does nothing to promote grown-up discussion of a serious matter.
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Old 27th May 2023, 09:55
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Wigston clearly missed a few English lessons ....................

Less than two per cent

but no different to

See me after school.
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Old 27th May 2023, 10:03
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Looking at the outputs from Ph1 trg at both Halton and Cranwell I can categorically state that there is no systemic racism against white males. Total fallacy.
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Old 27th May 2023, 10:06
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Am I missing something here? I know everything is very “Joint” these days but why is the outgoing CAS giving this sort of final interview standing by an aircraft carrier ? I thought this was reserved for Admirals only!
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
The numbers demonstrate nothing of the sort ........... unless the various minorities are being rejected after applying, the proportions merely illustrate a "coalition of the willing" ........ the proportions coming forward to join. I assume the RAF does not want the unwilling.

Possible exceptions which could have been pleaded in evidence are the lack of women aircrew, and the lack of very senior women, but these "issues" appear to be being addressed from a very low baseline.

Calling respondents "snowflake" does nothing to promote grown-up discussion of a serious matter.
oh dear - sad at being brought up are we?

demonstrate - with proof - the “systematic racism against white males”…
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Old 27th May 2023, 12:57
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Good point, though presumably some aircraft "carried" have RAF Pilots? Hope you still have that Nav. Bag?
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