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Can Wigston survive the onslaught?

Old 21st Aug 2022, 16:32
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Hi,
in my experience of NATO airworthiness, albeit 14 years ago, I would say you should find a more accomplished organisation.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 17:03
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Originally Posted by charliegolf View Post
Who was the last airship (let's say 2*+) to get sacked?

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Sacked as in shown the door? I’d say Peter Harding.

Sacked as in moved sidewards to avoid causing more damage (pre the ‘up or out’ days) would we ever know?

Same question could be asked about station and/or squadron commanders. When was one held accountable (other than a sideways posting at tourex and a couple of years extra in rank)?
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 17:20
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Originally Posted by Wrathmonk View Post
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Sacked as in moved sidewards to avoid causing more damage (pre the ‘up or out’ days) would we ever know?
Kinda my point... He's going nowhere. In every sense of the word.

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Old 21st Aug 2022, 17:40
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I sincerely hope he does not survive. On his watch, in no particular order:

Beards

Star Trek new uniform

’Aviators’

Diversity targets

Non-use of RAF Regt when withdrawing from Kabul
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 17:53
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Originally Posted by snapper41 View Post
I sincerely hope he does not survive. On his watch, in no particular order:

Beards

Star Trek new uniform

’Aviators’

Diversity targets

Non-use of RAF Regt when withdrawing from Kabul

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Found negligent by Coroner; only escaping gross negligence, and hence corporate manslaughter charge, by dint of lying by omission and the law not permitting her to reopen when she found out.

(I wonder why the media didn't report that one?)
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Having worked under the Scottish Air Commodore [as he was then], I have the view that some are unstoppable and totally fireproof.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 18:18
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Originally Posted by MPN11 View Post
Having worked under the Scottish Air Commodore [as he was then], I have the view that some are unstoppable and totally fireproof.
Because they are always one step ahead of the 5hit storm. Do enough to get the required ticks in the box for promotion and move on. Could say the same for a large number of people across many ranks!
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 18:19
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Originally Posted by charliegolf View Post
Kinda my point... He's going nowhere. In every sense of the word.

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Soz, my reading between the one line skills are clearly lacking 😁
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 18:34
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I don’t know why the do not send out a questionnaire to all the troops asking their opinion before announcing major changes.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 19:18
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Originally Posted by Wrathmonk View Post
Because they are always one step ahead of the 5hit storm. Do enough to get the required ticks in the box for promotion and move on. Could say the same for a large number of people across many ranks!
He was clearly fireproofed. He was witnessed at a meeting telling a Civil Servant to wind his neck in. The CS was a 3*, IIRC. The whole Directorate was aware, and waiting for the roof to fall in. Nothing happened, of course. Lord Tim was his 2* cover, and undoubtedly others further up the pipe.

His inefficiency and lack of charm knew no bounds, as many will be aware. Endless re-drafting of correspondence, one para at a time as he bored easily. My record was, IIRC, 5 re-drafts … the last one after he’d signed the letter. And of such are Air Chief Marshals made.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 19:27
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Originally Posted by snapper41 View Post
I sincerely hope he does not survive. On his watch, in no particular order:

Beards

Star Trek new uniform

’Aviators’

Diversity targets

Non-use of RAF Regt when withdrawing from Kabul
Award of flying badges to non flying personnel .

Award of Squadron numbers to non combatant, non flying units.

Withdrawal of all HR / admin support to “warfighters”

100/0 sim / real target.

Not fussed about beards though.

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Old 21st Aug 2022, 19:39
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Do we need two Air Forces ?

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Perhaps we needs two hair forces ? One for pretty parades and fly pasts (I love a good parade wiv Swords and Medals and Guard 'n' Band) and the other (with full 24 hr support including catering and lotsa munitions) for the nasty stuff ....

Which hobvs will never happen if them in charge keeps their fingers in their ears and their 'eds between their 'nees, ready to kiss their a****'s bye bye.

W
W
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decode .... Woke Wig Won't Win Wars

So what's his real job then ?

LFH (no smiley)

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Old 21st Aug 2022, 19:53
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I never got over the duo he did with CASWO at Christmas a year or two past.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 19:59
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It doesn't get any better:

The RAF's head of recruitment refused to follow an order to prioritise women and ethnic minority candidates over white men because she believed it was "unlawful", defence sources have claimed and a leaked email has revealed.
https://news.sky.com/story/raf-recru...veals-12678612

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Old 21st Aug 2022, 20:03
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When your name becomes the story, you don't have long left.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 20:05
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Timelord - a fine list, apart from one.

Award of flying badges to non flying personnel
Care to unpick that one? If you are talking about the Space Operators Badge, then it is not a flying badge and is not listed with the flying badges in QR206. It also looks distinctly different next to a flying badge with its silver grey wings, a blue laurel wreath and the normal space ‘delta’/orbit insignia inside the wreath with the constellation of Aries over laid. It replaced the, horror of horrors, 2-winged USAF space badge that our folks had been wearing at Vandenburg, Buckley and Fylingdales. So, whilst I agree that Sir Wokey of Wokeston has a few things to lay as his feet, this is not one of them, I would offer?

If you’re talking about the RPAS flyers, then that was policy before he was appointed (and I disagree with the idea that they should not get flying badges for flying and operating an air vehicle on combat operations). Our RPAS crews are some of the most combat proven and relevant, seeing what the TB2 has achieved in Ukraine, amongst our aircrew cadre.

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Old 21st Aug 2022, 20:10
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I am prepared to be persuaded over RPAS crews but the Space Operators Badge is, to the casual observer, exactly like the single wing flying badges that have been awarded to non pilot aircrew since forever. It may not be listed in QR 206, but it pretends to be a flying badge.

By all means create a new badge for them if their specialisation deserves it (if it does, why not ATC or Air Battle etc etc?) but keep it different to the historic FLYING badge.
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Old 21st Aug 2022, 21:21
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Originally Posted by Timelord View Post
I am prepared to be persuaded over RPAS crews but the Space Operators Badge is, to the casual observer, exactly like the single wing flying badges that have been awarded to non pilot aircrew since forever. It may not be listed in QR 206, but it pretends to be a flying badge.

By all means create a new badge for them if their specialisation deserves it (if it does, why not ATC or Air Battle etc etc?) but keep it different to the historic FLYING badge.
You see the similarities and differences probably mean that it’s about right in my opinion. The Space Operators either operate space based sensors in a similar way to ISTAR operators on a crewed or un-crewed aircraft, or they also remotely ‘fly’ the satellites to avoid space weather (like solar flares), other satellites/space debris and also may manoeuvre to either eavesdrop on other nation’s satellites or even to deny their satellite from being used. Whilst there is no air up there, so no wings are needed and so it couldn’t be a flying badge, that is probably the only significant difference. Everything else, even ‘Combat Ready’ workups, are very similar. I personally think it’s good that the chosen badge tips a nod to the RAF’s operators in the air of old, but looks different enough to enable people to realise it’s something different.

They look different enough in my eyes




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Old 21st Aug 2022, 21:24
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Just perfect.

Wigston has destroyed the effectiveness and lethality of the RAF in favour of diversity and inclusion. Warfare is a darwinian environment and it cares only for talent, cunning, guile and skill. It does not care if you marched in the Pride parade.

Everyone should ask themselves, come the (impending?) war to save our civilization, who do you want defending your children? Do you want the best we have, or do you want Wiggys WOKE warriors, afraid to shoot someone in the face in case it offends them, but definitely in touch with their feelings?

Ben Wallace must sack this incompetent imbecile before he reduces the RAF to the point where there is nothing left to save, and the law breaking AVM Head of Personnel must go as well - she has forfeit her right to wear the uniform she has so utterly disgraced. Go back to filling teeth, because filling training courses is clearly too much of a challenge to your left-wing WOKE agenda.

The Group Captain who resigned (I know her name but will not publish here) should be promoted without delay and asked to fix this utter dogs turd of a situation.

Wigston - if you truly care for the RAF, go now - you are killing it with your warped ideas and total lack of ability. You have done everything you can to destroy the values and effectiveness of the RAF and you should be vilified for all time.

Ben Wallace - put warfighters in charge of your Teeth Arm - there is no room for Wiggys moronic ideas in a battlefield...,and the battlefield is coming.

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