Civilian Buyer of RAF Neatishead Wants To Get Type 84 Radar Working
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Civilian Buyer of RAF Neatishead Wants To Get Type 84 Radar Working
Might be a job opportunity for any retired ground radar techs living in the area - possibly former fighter contoller / ABM as well !
This story made it onto TV in the USA.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ar-system.html
https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7ba...r-to-find-ufos
This story made it onto TV in the USA.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ar-system.html
https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7ba...r-to-find-ufos
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The way things are going, perhaps detecting incoming nukes again might be a better idea.
Might be a job opportunity for any retired ground radar techs living in the area - possibly former fighter contoller / ABM as well !
This story made it onto TV in the USA.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ar-system.html
https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7ba...r-to-find-ufos
This story made it onto TV in the USA.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...ar-system.html
https://www.vice.com/en/article/k7ba...r-to-find-ufos
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I seam to remember being told that Neatishead's R12 had a crack down it after someone thought it would be a good idea to try and put the antenna into sector scan (well that was the rumour I was told when based at Staxton)
Would turning on the T84 interfere with the operations of RRH Trimingham?
What would Auntie Joan think ...
What would Auntie Joan think ...
https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/local-c...-moved-9120878
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
No, both the T84 and T85 were based on the Ops site and fed directly into the R30 Ops block. Remote radar sites only started coming back in with the e introduction of the T90 and T91 radars in the 1980s - necessitating the use of a DPAVC* to convert their digital output to analogue in order to interface with the current consoles until UKADGE came on-line.
Which is another story of vanishing blips and data buffer overloads…
*Digital Plot to Analogue Video Converter.
Which is another story of vanishing blips and data buffer overloads…
*Digital Plot to Analogue Video Converter.
No, both the T84 and T85 were based on the Ops site and fed directly into the R30 Ops block. Remote radar sites only started coming back in with the e introduction of the T90 and T91 radars in the 1980s - necessitating the use of a DPAVC* to convert their digital output to analogue in order to interface with the current consoles until UKADGE came on-line.
Which is another story of vanishing blips and data buffer overloads…
*Digital Plot to Analogue Video Converter.
Which is another story of vanishing blips and data buffer overloads…
*Digital Plot to Analogue Video Converter.
Still remember Duncan Campbell's program about British Air Defence Computer screw ups.
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Ah, the happy days at Eastern Rader, having the T84/T85 fed to us from Neat by microwave links. Oh, God, that 4 rpm was nerve-wracking when doing hectic ATC stuff over E. Anglia. Our 8 rpm Orange Yeoman T82 was much nicer to work with!
Under normal Ops, a few consoles had 'double-headed displays', with the T82 in the lower position and the Neat radar of the day on a separate display above it (eg. Console 6A, right end of front row]. If the T82 went Pete Tong, everyone could select the T84/T85 feed ... and sweat in between sweeps of the antenna!
Under normal Ops, a few consoles had 'double-headed displays', with the T82 in the lower position and the Neat radar of the day on a separate display above it (eg. Console 6A, right end of front row]. If the T82 went Pete Tong, everyone could select the T84/T85 feed ... and sweat in between sweeps of the antenna!
Ah, the happy days at Eastern Rader, having the T84/T85 fed to us from Neat by microwave links. Oh, God, that 4 rpm was nerve-wracking when doing hectic ATC stuff over E. Anglia. Our 8 rpm Orange Yeoman T82 was much nicer to work with!
Under normal Ops, a few consoles had 'double-headed displays', with the T82 in the lower position and the Neat radar of the day on a separate display above it (eg. Console 6A, right end of front row]. If the T82 went Pete Tong, everyone could select the T84/T85 feed ... and sweat in between sweeps of the antenna!
Under normal Ops, a few consoles had 'double-headed displays', with the T82 in the lower position and the Neat radar of the day on a separate display above it (eg. Console 6A, right end of front row]. If the T82 went Pete Tong, everyone could select the T84/T85 feed ... and sweat in between sweeps of the antenna!
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And No. 293 Sqn’s Bloodhound site gave me and few mates some dry-footed rough shooting in the 70s!
When did Eastern Radar finally expire, and move to LATCC and then Swanwick? I could have been ERD’/Watton’s last CO, but AOC MATO black-balled me as “I had a serving wife who could not fulfil the duties of an independent Unit’s CO’s spouse.” Ah, the Flower Arranging and Wives’s Club. Those were the days! Never forgotten or forgiven!!
When did Eastern Radar finally expire, and move to LATCC and then Swanwick? I could have been ERD’/Watton’s last CO, but AOC MATO black-balled me as “I had a serving wife who could not fulfil the duties of an independent Unit’s CO’s spouse.” Ah, the Flower Arranging and Wives’s Club. Those were the days! Never forgotten or forgiven!!
And No. 293 Sqn’s Bloodhound site gave me and few mates some dry-footed rough shooting in the 70s!
When did Eastern Radar finally expire, and move to LATCC and then Swanwick? I could have been ERD’/Watton’s last CO, but AOC MATO black-balled me as “I had a serving wife who could not fulfil the duties of an independent Unit’s CO’s spouse.” Ah, the Flower Arranging and Wives’s Club. Those were the days! Never forgotten or forgiven!!
When did Eastern Radar finally expire, and move to LATCC and then Swanwick? I could have been ERD’/Watton’s last CO, but AOC MATO black-balled me as “I had a serving wife who could not fulfil the duties of an independent Unit’s CO’s spouse.” Ah, the Flower Arranging and Wives’s Club. Those were the days! Never forgotten or forgiven!!
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I wasn't aware that any AR-3Ds were operational in the UK?
I visited the Royal Air Force Air Defence Radar Museum at Neatishead last month and found it very interesting indeed. There were presentations made during the visit by operators who had served there and explained the workings as well as a few anecdotes. One of these concerned a Soviet intelligence-gathering trawler off NW Scotland which was selected for a "roasting" for some reason. The power was turned right up and "aimed" at this ship and, supposedly, burnt out all electronic equipment. This rather puzzled me because AFAIK radar is line-of-sight and there are certainly a good few hills between low-lying Neatishead and the coast of NW Scotland and also wouldn't all this immense electronic power be destroying a swathe of electronic equipment across Britain. I asked the presenters about this and got no coherent answer.
Can anyone here tell me if this was true and/or possible, or simply a canteen story spun to anybody not in the know to amuse/impress them ?
Can anyone here tell me if this was true and/or possible, or simply a canteen story spun to anybody not in the know to amuse/impress them ?
The RAF had 5 convoys in total. Unicorn rig at Gatow doing Air Traffic and other stuff. Two in the Falklands at Byron Heights (Penguin 2) and Cape Orford / Mount Alice (Penguin 1) and two in the UK. A Technical training system at RAF Locking and the Panicle Convoy of 144SU at RAF Wattisham. The Wattisham convoy was Transportable (all of the cabins were on trailers) and it was suppose to be a Standby SOC for Sector South with an extra display and comms cabins.It did had data link capability to take plot data from SLEWC or pass its plot data into somewhere like Neatishead. The extra display cabin only had synthetic displays (which the Scopes didn't like) and there was no way of controlling the plots going in and out of the data link (i never saw it used or know of anybody who did see it in operation). Wattisham also did pre employment scopie training for the Type 94's on the Falklands, as well as 3rd line engineering support. It was deployed for a few exercises and did a long term deployment to Portreath in 1990/91 to cover for Portreath's T91 which was at Boulmer, while their T91 was recovered from major damage to the Spine caused by a Lightning strike. The Radar was to have gone to Cyprus to replace the T84 at 280SU, but when Bishops Court was shut in 1990, the radar was deployed to the old Army Ty-Croes missile firing range near Valley in July 91. The Radar was suppose to stay there until a IUKADGE reporting post, communication sites and Type 93 radar could be installed there (one of the T93 Convoys did get a 144SU Designate number plate). One of the Consoles (No 2) was removed from the Processing and Display Cabin and a Remote Input Terminal feeding track data into SLEWC at Neatishead was installed in its place. The extra cabins went to Locking to be broken down for spares. Ty-Croes was a full CRP, it had control facilities and controllers on the LUE who spent most of the time doing Air to Air Training for Mirror Image at 4FTS. The unit was shut down in December 1995, when remote Air to Air IUKADGE radios were installed at Valley and the NATS primary radar data could be fed into the IUKADGE. The Radar went to Locking and like the Unicorn rig ripped out of Gatow in the early 1990's was broken up for spares or used for technical training. The T94's were withdrawn from service in 1998/99. Byron's one was removed in 1998, Locking and Alice were switched off in April / May 1999.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Can anyone here tell me if this was true and/or possible, or simply a canteen story spun to anybody not in the know to amuse/impress them ?
However, as an addendum.
MOD admit zapping cars
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