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Old 15th Jun 2022, 08:55
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Don’t remember any particular probs although we were carrying quite a few snags. Basically, if it flew and the weapons system worked, we launched! On the first Stanley raid, CO 800 tried to hand the lead to #3 because his NAVHARS had dumped on launch. #3 replied that his had as well, so he tried to give me the lead - but my kit had dumped too, so he pressed on as leader.

As I recall, we had around 97% serviceability overall. Not bad - but then we did have the best maintainers in the world! It was the only time in my life that I have jumped into a jet, pulled the pins and launched - and felt absolutely happy that the BMITW had done their job and wouldn’t let me down.

My personal record from fast asleep to airborne was just short of 3 minutes. Got some good quality kip at Alert 5, by jamming my elbows in the canopy spray tubes and forming a geometric lock with my fists on the helmet.

Kids today ……….

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There were no heroes here
Amongst the men who tramped through
Rutted, quaking moor
Or crawled, cat-silent,
Over skittering scree
To prove the way.

No heroes fought the blazing fires
Which sucked the very blood from
Ship and man alike.
Or braved knife cold
Without a thought
To save a life.

No heroes they, but ones who loved
Sweet life and children's laugh,
And dreamt of home
When war allowed.
They were but men.




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I don’t know about ‘best maintainers in the world’ as we were all trained to the same standards, but I’ll take nothing away from them and they certainly operated in conditions that were far more challenging than I ever experienced. There was still a job to be done back at home, often with no spares because they were all reserved for, or sent down south.

But it’s not just aircrew and engineers, there are a lot of unsung hero’s behind the scenes that are just as important, as are their tales. They need to be commended too, as all together, they put on a hell of a show.

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This guy is covering the air war from the other side, Herc bomber etc

https://twitter.com/LatinMilitaryAv




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lots of stuff ive never seen before on that link above, Argentinian Sea King landing in Stanley, lots of others Such as their Lynx too.
A lot are taken by the Argentinians themselves such as the airliners carrying in troops to Stanley
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I think it only right that we should acknowledge all those of the air arms of both countries who lost their lives in the theatre of operations, 90 members of the aviation community. I searched in vain online for an English language list of the Argentinian dead - thanks to Marcantilian for pointing me at the FAA memorial webpages and confirming the names I had for the COAN dead. (and reminding me of the correct abbreviation). The list is ordered by date and by surname grouped by country. Most if not all the Argentinian dead were posthumously promoted but I have given their rank at death, I have omitted decorations as I don't know those given to the Argentinians. I am not sure about all the units or in the case of one or two RN ratings that their rates are correct. If there are strong objections to this from those who were there I will consider deleting this post. (Apologies for the gash format - I tried in vain to post a table)

Date - Name - Service - Aircraft or Place - Unit


23/04/1982 POACMN Kevin Stuart 'Ben' Casey RN ZA311 Sea King HC.4 846 NAS/HMS Hermes

01/05/1982 1er. Ten José Leónidas Ardiles FAA C-433 Dagger Grupo 6 de Caza

01/05/1982 Sol. c/63 Héctor Ramón Bordón FAA Stanley Airport/BAM Malvinas IX Brigada Aérea Comodoro Rivadavia

01/05/1982 C1o Andrés Luis Brashich FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor - ?Grupo 3 de Ataque
(Medevaced but died of wounds onboard Chinook H-91)


01/05/1982 C1o Miguel Angel Carrizo FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor ?Grupo 3 de Ataque

01/05/1982 Ten. Eduardo Jorge Raúl De Ibanez FAA B-110 Canberra B.62 Grupo 2 de Bombardeo

01/05/1982 CP Mario Duarte FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor ?Grupo 3 de Ataque

01/05/1982 Sol. c/63 Guillermo Ubaldo García FAA Stanley Airport/BAM Malvinas) I Brigada Aérea, Compañía de Policía Militar

01/05/1982 Cap. Gustavo Argentino García Cuerva FAA I-019 Mirage IIIEA Grupo 8 de Caza

01/05/1982 1er. Ten. Mario Hipólito González FAA B-110 Canberra B.62 Grupo 2 de Bombardeo

01/05/1982 Ten. Daniel Antionio Jukic FAA A-527 Pucara Grupo 3 de Ataque

01/05/1982 C1o José Alberto Maldonado FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor ?Grupo 3 de Ataque

01/05/1982 C1o Agustín Hugo Montaño FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor ?Grupo 3 de Ataque
(Medevaced by Chinook H-91 died on arrival at Port Stanley/Puerto Argentino Hospital)


01/05/1982 C1o José Luis Peralta FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor ?Grupo 3 de Ataque

01/05/1982 CP Juan Antonio Rodríguez FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor ?Grupo 3 de Ataque

02/05/1982 Suboficial Mayor Ramón Barrios COAN ARA General Belgrano 1ra Escuadrilla Aeronaval de Helicópteros

02/05/1982 Suboficial Segundo Roberto Segundo Lobo COAN ARA General Belgrano 1ra Escuadrilla Aeronaval de Helicópteros

03/05/1982 Teniente de Fragata Carlos Benítez COAN 0764 (4-A-113) MB-339A 1ra Escuadrilla Aeronaval de Ataque

04/05/1982 Lt. Nicholas 'Nick' Taylor RN XZ450 Sea Harrier FRS.1 800 NAS/HMS Hermes

06/05/1982 Lt William Alan 'Al' Curtis RN XZ453 Sea Harrier FRS.1 801 NAS/HMS Invincible

06/05/1982 Lt Cdr John Edward 'E-J' Eyton-Jones RN XZ452 Sea Harrier FRS.1 801 (899) NAS/HMS Invincible

09/05/1982 1er. Ten. Juan Carlos Buschaiazzo CAE AE-505 Puma CAB601/Compania de Asalto A

09/05/1982 Ten. Jorge Eduardo Casco FAA C-313 A-4C Grupo 4 de Caza

09/05/1982 Sargento Mecánico de Aviácion Horacio Di Motta. CAE AE-505 Puma CAB601/Compania de Asalto A

09/05/1982 Ten. Jorge Ricardo Farías FAA C-303 A-4C Grupo 4 de Caza

09/05/1982 1er. Ten. Roberto Fiorito CAE AE-505 Puma CAB601/Compania de Asalto A

10/05/1982 C. Héctor Hugo Varás FAA ARA Isla de los Estados Servicio de Transporte de la VI Brigada Aérea

12/05/1982 1er. Ten. Manuel Oscar Bustos FAA C-246 A-4B Grupo 5 de Caza

12/05/1982 1er. Ten. Fausto Gavazzi FAA C-248 A-4B Grupo 5 de Caza

12/05/1982 Ten. Jorge Rubén Ibarlucea FAA C-208 A-4B Grupo 5 de Caza

12/05/1982 Ten. Mario Víctor Nívoli FAA C-206 A-4B Grupo 5 de Caza

19/05/1982 Flt Lt Garth Walter 'Gunner' Hawkins RAF ZA294 Sea King HC.4 Attached D Sqn 22 SAS

19/05/1982 Cpl Michael David 'Doc' Love RM ZA294 Sea King HC.4 846 NAS/HMS Hermes - HMS Intrepid

21/05/1982 Ten. Pedro Ignacio Bean FAA C-428 Dagger Grupo 6 de Caza

21/05/1982 Teniente de Fragata Marcelo Gustavo Márquez COAN 0667 (3-A-314) A-4Q 3ra Escuadrilla Aeronaval de Caza y Ataque

21/05/1982 Ten. Nestor Edgardo Lopez FAA C-309 A-4C Grupo 4 de Caza

21/05/1982 1er. Ten. Daniel Fernado Manzotti FAA C-325 A-4C Grupo 4 de Caza

21/05/1982 Sgt. Andrew Peter Evans RM XX411 Gazelle AH.1 3 CBAS

21/05/1982 Lt. Kenneth David Francis RM XX402 Gazelle AH.1 3 CBAS

21/05/1982 L-Cpl. Brett Patrick Giffen RM XX402 Gazelle AH.1 3 CBAS

21/05/1982 POAEM(M) Peter Ian Herbert Brouard RN HMS Ardent 815 NAS (207 Flt)/HMS Ardent

21/05/1982 AEM(?)1 Alan Joseph 'Mac' McCauley RN HMS Ardent 815 NAS (207 Flt)/HMS Ardent

21/05/1982 Lt. Brian 'Spud' Murphy RN HMS Ardent 815 NAS (207 Flt)/HMS Ardent

21/05/1982 Lt. Cdr John Murray Sefton RN HMS Ardent 815 NAS (207 Flt)/HMS Ardent

23/05/1982 Lt. Cdr Gordon Walter James 'Gordie' Batt RN ZA192 Sea Harrier FRS.1 800 (899) NAS/HMS Hermes

23/05/1982 1er. Ten. Luciano Guadagnini FAA C-242 A-4B Grupo 5 de Caza

23/05/1982 Ten. Héctor Ricardo Volponi FAA C-437 Dagger Grupo 6 de Caza

23/05/1982 Capitán de Corbeta Carlos Maria Zubizarreta COAN 0659 (3-A-306) A-4Q 3ra Escuadrilla Aeronaval de Caza y Ataque
(died of injuries in Rio Grande Hospital)

24/05/1982 Ten. Jorge Alberto Bono FAA C-305 A-4C Grupo 4 de Caza

24/05/1982 Ten. Carlos Julio Castillo FAA C-430 Dagger Grupo 6 de Caza

24/05/1982 Alf. Mario Luis Valko FAA A- 09 Pucara Grupo 3 de Ataque

25/05/1982 AEM(R)1 Adrian John Anslow RN SS Atlantic Conveyor 845 NAS/SS Atlantic Conveyor

25/05/1982 LAEM(L) Donald Leonard'Don' Pryce RN SS Atlantic Conveyor 845 NAS/SS Atlantic Conveyor

25/05/1982 Cap. Jorge Osvaldo García FAA C-304 A-4C Grupo 4 de Caza

25/05/1982 Cap. Hugo Ángel del Valle Palaver FAA C-244 A-4B Grupo 5 de Caza

28/05/1982 Sol. c/63 Hector Walter Aguirre FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor Compañía de Tropa de la Base Aérea Militar Cóndor

28/05/1982 Ten. Miguel Ángel Giménez FAA A-237 Pucara Grupo 3 de Ataque

28/05/1982 Sol. c/63 Mario Ramón Luna FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor Compañía de Tropa de la Base Aérea Militar Cóndor

28/05/1982 Teniente de Fragata Daniel Enrique Miguel COAN 0765 (4-A-114) MB-339A 1ra Escuadrilla Aeronaval de Ataque

28/05/1982 Sol. c/63 Luis Guillermo Sevilla FAA Goose Green/BAM Condor Compañía de Tropa de la Base Aérea Militar Cóndor

28/05/1982 Lt. Richard James Nunn RM XT629 Scout AH.1 3 CBAS

29/05/1982 Ten. Juan Domingo Bernhardt FAA C-435 Dagger Grupo 6 de Caza

29/05/1982 1er. Ten. Luis Dário 'El Furia' Castagnari FAA Stanley Airport/BAM Malvinas Grupo de Operaciones Especiales (OiC Base Security)

30/05/1982 1er. Ten. Omar Jesús Castillo FAA C-310 A-4C Grupo 4 de Caza

30/05/1982 1er. Ten. José Dániel Vázquez FAA C-301 A-4C Grupo 4 de Caza

01/06/1982 SA Manuel Alberto Albelos FAA TC-63 C-130E Grupo 1 de Transporte Aero Esc. I

01/06/1982 CP Carlos Domingo Cantezano FAA TC-63 C-130E Grupo 1 de Transporte Aero Esc. I

01/06/1982 CP Miguel Ángel Cardone FAA TC-63 C-130E Grupo 1 de Transporte Aero Esc. I

01/06/1982 Cap. Carlos Eduardo Krause FAA TC-63 C-130E Grupo 1 de Transporte Aero Esc. I

01/06/1982 SP Julio Jésus Lastra FAA TC-63 C-130E Grupo 1 de Transporte Aero Esc. I

01/06/1982 Cap. Rúben Héctor Martel FAA TC-63 C-130E Grupo 1 de Transporte Aero Esc. I

01/06/1982 Vcom. Hugo César Meisner FAA TC-63 C-130E Grupo 1 de Transporte Aero Esc. I

05/06/1982 LCpl Simon Jeremy Cockton AAC XX377 Gazelle AH.1 656 Sqn

05/06/1982 SSgt Christopher Anthony Griffin AAC XX377 Gazelle AH.1 656 Sqn

07/06/1982 SA Francisco Tomás Luna FAA T-24 Learjet 35A Grupo 1 de Aerofotographico

07/06/1982 S.Aux. Guido Antonio Marizza FAA T-24 Learjet 35A Grupo 1 de Aerofotographico

07/06/1982 Vcom. Rodolfo Manuel de Colina FAA T-24 Learjet 35A (OC) Esc. Fénix

07/06/1982 May. Juan José Ramón Falconier FAA T-24 Learjet 35A Esc. Fénix

07/06/1982 Cap. Marcelo Pedro Lotufo FAA T-24 Learjet 35A (OC) Centro Aerofotográfico de la Fuerza Aérea Sur

08/06/1982 Ten. Juan José Arraras FAA C-226 A-4B Grupo 5 de Caza

08/06/1982 1er. Ten. Danilo Rubén Bolzán FAA C-204 A-4B Grupo 5 de Caza

08/06/1982 Alf. Jorge Alfredo Vazquez FAA C-228 A-4B Grupo 5 de Caza

12/06/1982 POEM(E) Michael John Adcock RN HMS Glamorgan 737 NAS (103 Flt)/ HMS Glamorgan

12/06/1982 AEM(1) Mark Henderson RN HMS Glamorgan 737 NAS (103 Flt)/ HMS Glamorgan

12/06/1982 AEM(R)1 Brian Peter Hinge RN HMS Glamorgan 737 NAS (103 Flt)/ HMS Glamorgan

12/06/1982 Local Acting CAEM David 'Grubber' Lee RN HMS Glamorgan 737 NAS (103 Flt)/ HMS Glamorgan

12/06/1982 AEA(M) Kelvin Ian 'Popeye' McCallum RN HMS Glamorgan 737 NAS (103 Flt)/ HMS Glamorgan

12/06/1982 POACMN Colin Paul Vickers RN HMS Glamorgan 737 NAS (103 Flt)/ HMS Glamorgan

13/06/1982 Cap. Fernando Juan Casado FAA B-108 Canberra B.62 Grupo 2 de Bombardeo

16/06/1982 NA(AH)1 Brian 'Budgie' Marsden RN HMS Invincible HMS Invincible
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A sad list of lives cut short.

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
This guy is covering the air war from the other side, Herc bomber etc

https://twitter.com/LatinMilitaryAv


Thanks for sharing nutloose, there are some great pictures in there, but looks like I need to sign up for twitter to see the rest.

Regarding the bomber Herky bird, it seems that the chatter of them "rolling bombs off the ramp" of the time has be debunked (but seems to still be in some references from the time) does anyone know what it took to make it an improvised bomber? Looks like a beam between the pylon and the ejector rack? Release mechanism/wiring? Sighting?
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Assembly of stills including those (I assume) responsible

Para los que leen español mejor que yo... https://www.marambio.aq/pdf/herculesbombardero.pdf

Looks an interesting document on Hercules Ops in 1982.

Courtesy of goggle translate:
Therefore, it was necessary to attack the enemy supply lines, that is, to restrict the freedom action of English traffic on the high seas; in this case it was going to be a distant air interdiction, given the distances that the designated aircraft should travel. One study determined that the most suitable aircraft for the task was the C-130 H Hercules, because had a great range that could be increased, there was the possibility of adding something some type of weaponry and there were crew members who were trained in search and rescue, in aeromaritime exploration and in performing autonomously in different types of air operations; this proposal was approved by the CAE. The aircraft with registration TC - 68 was assigned for the task and it was determined that due to its technical capacity the modifications had to be carried out in the Military Aircraft Factory (Córdoba). The engineering studies determined that the following modifications be made:
  • installed four fuel pylon tanks – originally designed for mounting under the wings – inside the cargo hold to increase its endurance (approximately 19.00 flight hours)
  • in the two external stations, in the place of the two fuel tanks, they adapted two MER (multiple ejection racks) multiple bomb racks to it, in which it could carry up to six 250-kilogram bombs in each (twelve in all)
  • in the pilot's position on the dashboard an SFON shooting sight as used in Pucará aircraft, was placed,
  • added a button to fire the bombs to the control yoke in the pilot's position
  • In the co-pilot's position, on the right panel, the control box for the weapons system, which was from where its use was enabled
The device was rudimentary and the aircraft had not been designed to perform that type of task; therefore the probability of hitting a naval target was remote, but it was fulfill one of the objectives of aerial interdiction, which is to "interfere" or annoy the enemy.

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Thanks for sharing nutloose, there are some great pictures in there, but looks like I need to sign up for twitter to see the rest.

Regarding the bomber Herky bird, it seems that the chatter of them "rolling bombs off the ramp" of the time has be debunked (but seems to still be in some references from the time) does anyone know what it took to make it an improvised bomber? Looks like a beam between the pylon and the ejector rack? Release mechanism/wiring? Sighting?
Just click on sign up or sign in, it opens a bigger version of the window with an x top left, then close it and carry on.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Just click on sign up or sign in, it opens a bigger version of the window with an x top left, then close it and carry on.
Thanks for the work-around!
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Will any of those Jet Art Harriers be allowed to fly again?
I assume not - complex type etc.
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No, I doubt it, it was restored to taxying only, but if you want a flyer see..



3 HARRIER AIRCRAFT PACKAGE | Courtesy Aircraft

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There was a Harrier (static) at the Avalon airshow in Melbourne years ago.
What amazed me looking at it was how compact the cockpit was.
As tight fitting as an A-4 - the pilot has a lot of leg under the instrument panel... must have been very tight clearance if you had to use the seat.
Much reflection on the bravery it took to strap in and launch off a heaving deck in cold, foul South Atlantic weather.
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Not sure if this documentary has already been mentioned here.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...rontline-story
I watched it two days ago. Highly recommended.
PS
Apologies that this is already in the thread. First class, nonetheless.
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Originally Posted by tartare
There was a Harrier (static) at the Avalon airshow in Melbourne years ago.
What amazed me looking at it was how compact the cockpit was.
As tight fitting as an A-4 - the pilot has a lot of leg under the instrument panel... must have been very tight clearance if you had to use the seat.
Much reflection on the bravery it took to strap in and launch off a heaving deck in cold, foul South Atlantic weather.
As I recall it the Harrier folks had their flying boots modified with a flap to stop the bootlaces being damaged/cut by cockpit furniture in the event of a high speed exit...

No doubt one of our previous posters can confirm or deny.
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I thought that it was to stop friction damage to the end of a very sensitive piece of personal equipment! 😈

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Originally Posted by Mogwi
I thought that it was to stop friction damage to the end of a very sensitive piece of personal equipment! 😈

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Very short legs.....
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