Ukraine - implications for Russian military going forward
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
Le but essentially if it's the same people on the other side all you're doing is stopping the fighting now but with a probability of renewed fighting in 10-20 years.
You start to think France v Germany - 1870, 1914, 1939
You start to think France v Germany - 1870, 1914, 1939
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Can you explain how the "people in Germany " were the same in 1914 and 1939 ?
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Can anyone suggest how we counter the nuclear capabilities of Russia. Putin does not care what the consequences are of launching a first strike against the West. Cutting off his button finger would not be sufficient, sure their are other fingers lined up behind him.
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Originally Posted by tcinbg
Can anyone suggest how we counter the nuclear capabilities of Russia. Putin does not care what the consequences are of launching a first strike against the West. Cutting off his button finger would not be sufficient, sure their are other fingers lined up behind him.
So, anyone here voting for WW3? Or have a viable option?
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The problem is that NATO is only a defensive structure and Vlad knows and is exploiting it.
The only thing that might have the possibility of succeeding would be a full scale conventional attack directly on Russia across multiple fronts..
This would require commitment by a significant number of nation states with everything they had. Yes, the possibility/probability of things going full nuclear would definitely be there, however this will be the outcome anyway if Russia remains unchecked. Even a first strike should not be off the table at this stage, since we know where this is all going.
Naturally China would just be a side show because there would be no winners.
Best make your peace before it kicks off, the Lord preserve us.
IG
The only thing that might have the possibility of succeeding would be a full scale conventional attack directly on Russia across multiple fronts..
This would require commitment by a significant number of nation states with everything they had. Yes, the possibility/probability of things going full nuclear would definitely be there, however this will be the outcome anyway if Russia remains unchecked. Even a first strike should not be off the table at this stage, since we know where this is all going.
Naturally China would just be a side show because there would be no winners.
Best make your peace before it kicks off, the Lord preserve us.
IG
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Even a first strike should not be off the table at this stage, since we know where this is all going.
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Originally Posted by Imagegear
The problem is that NATO is only a defensive structure and Vlad knows and is exploiting it.
The only thing that might have the possibility of succeeding would be a full scale conventional attack directly on Russia across multiple fronts..
This would require commitment by a significant number of nation states with everything they had. Yes, the possibility/probability of things going full nuclear would definitely be there, however this will be the outcome anyway if Russia remains unchecked. Even a first strike should not be off the table at this stage, since we know where this is all going.
Naturally China would just be a side show because there would be no winners.
Best make your peace before it kicks off, the Lord preserve us.
IG
The only thing that might have the possibility of succeeding would be a full scale conventional attack directly on Russia across multiple fronts..
This would require commitment by a significant number of nation states with everything they had. Yes, the possibility/probability of things going full nuclear would definitely be there, however this will be the outcome anyway if Russia remains unchecked. Even a first strike should not be off the table at this stage, since we know where this is all going.
Naturally China would just be a side show because there would be no winners.
Best make your peace before it kicks off, the Lord preserve us.
IG
Imho, the Biden administration is acting with commendable clarity, trying hard to keep this contained, penalizing Russia severely for its attack and providing generous aid to Ukraine, but not participating directly.
What the end result will be is unknown, other than that all parties involved will have brutal losses, both human as well as material..
