Sweden Says Russian Planes that violated Swedish Airspace had nuclear weapons
During the Swedish Armed Forces' weekly press conference, Daniel Olsson, Deputy Head of the Military Intelligence and Security Service (Must), was asked about TV4 Nyheter's information.
Daniel Olsson said that MUST does not comment on other countries' armaments so that it could reveal Sweden's ability to investigate foreign planes.
- We do not go into armaments. But what I can say is that the violation in no way changes the threat against Sweden. We see no increased threat. In general, it is important to be aware that information on nuclear weapons can be used for psychological influence. It's a way to mark and intimidate when it comes to information about nuclear weapons. It is very important to be aware of that and be very critical of sources, said Daniel Olsson."
Daniel Olsson said that MUST does not comment on other countries' armaments so that it could reveal Sweden's ability to investigate foreign planes.
- We do not go into armaments. But what I can say is that the violation in no way changes the threat against Sweden. We see no increased threat. In general, it is important to be aware that information on nuclear weapons can be used for psychological influence. It's a way to mark and intimidate when it comes to information about nuclear weapons. It is very important to be aware of that and be very critical of sources, said Daniel Olsson."
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The Swedish transport Union has just announced they will not handle any Russian ships.
I would like to think that nuclear weapons would not be mistaken for anything else - but what about this story? B-52 mistakenly flew with nuclear bombs - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)
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That is for “dirty” bombs or other radiological material. Nuclear weapons fissile material in encased inside the weapon and there would be no signature to detect. Otherwise those poor guys attaching the bombs would have a very short career, after the radiation exposure.
The crux of the question is, how well sheilded is a warhead?
https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/n...-preparations/
", imagine loading a live nuke for target practices instead of a traditional explosives and the consequences. Or instead of a dummy."
Given the Barnes Wallis theory "You can't make anything fool proof - the fools are so damn clever"
I'm sure it's been done several times over the years somewhere
Given the Barnes Wallis theory "You can't make anything fool proof - the fools are so damn clever"
I'm sure it's been done several times over the years somewhere
"Don't know, I said, I can't find a standard fool to test with."
"Is there any good reason why Swedish AF did not shot them down?"
The Russians and the Swedes have been playing these games since the end of WW2 - - you don't shoot people down unless you want to start a war.
It's all (reasonably) well calibrated - no-one is going to start a war over a 2 plane incursion
The Russians and the Swedes have been playing these games since the end of WW2 - - you don't shoot people down unless you want to start a war.
It's all (reasonably) well calibrated - no-one is going to start a war over a 2 plane incursion
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"Is there any good reason why Swedish AF did not shot them down?"
The Russians and the Swedes have been playing these games since the end of WW2 - - you don't shoot people down unless you want to start a war.
It's all (reasonably) well calibrated - no-one is going to start a war over a 2 plane incursion
The Russians and the Swedes have been playing these games since the end of WW2 - - you don't shoot people down unless you want to start a war.
It's all (reasonably) well calibrated - no-one is going to start a war over a 2 plane incursion
You better be ready to fight an awful lot of wars.................
Yeah it is, but same time using this type of message may be counter productive if the idea behind it is to keep the Swedes unaligned. On the receiving end i guess its a way of trying to scare into submission but could also piss people off so they are more likely to join NATO...
Best practice has been since decades for NATO and affiliated Air Forces to warn intruders and accompany them out of the violated air space. Only if they don't comply with this, escalation would happen, e.g. forcing to land and/or firing warning shots. Shooting down would be very last resort if they don't turn away and are not compliant at all.
Shoot first, ask then is more best practice in 'less civilised' parts of the world or where military exchanges are normal part of politics.
Shoot first, ask then is more best practice in 'less civilised' parts of the world or where military exchanges are normal part of politics.
Yeah it is, but same time using this type of message may be counter productive if the idea behind it is to keep the Swedes unaligned. On the receiving end i guess its a way of trying to scare into submission but could also piss people off so they are more likely to join NATO...
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Best practice has been since decades for NATO and affiliated Air Forces to warn intruders and accompany them out of the violated air space. Only if they don't comply with this, escalation would happen, e.g. forcing to land and/or firing warning shots. Shooting down would be very last resort if they don't turn away and are not compliant at all.
Shoot first, ask then is more best practice in 'less civilised' parts of the world or where military exchanges are normal part of politics.
Shoot first, ask then is more best practice in 'less civilised' parts of the world or where military exchanges are normal part of politics.
Your preferred approach being to start a war asap would undoubtedly waste a lot more money. Does your user name refer to flying a cargo plane, or carrying boxes in an Amazon warehouse ?
That said it is not even clear what alleged kind of Nuclear wepaon we are talking about. A free-fall bomb? A Cruise missile? In any case once being accompanied there is almost no chance any more to achieve a successful delivery (apart maybe from the Kinshal - but that is another Story anyway). Cruise missile can be easily shot down if the fighter is directly behind the Bomber delivering it. Free- fall bombs would require you to overfly the target. You can be sure the Swedes won't sit there and wait until being over Stockholm.
So I don't see a real downside to sticking to this practice.
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ps you are forgetting Su24s were not alone but covered by Su27s, so a pair of Grippens might have disappeared from the radar if russkies intention would have been different.