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OpSec issues from Ukraine War

Old 22nd Mar 2022, 11:34
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan View Post
As has been posted multiple times, how is it possible that this information could be extracted from the tsunami of words sloshing around, when the language is going to be so generic ? There won't be key words like " Hill 247" but far more general terms such as "tactics" or "refuelling " in the analysis and comments that you mention.

Its not they are bored and just finding something to get thier knickers in a twist about.

The plane spotter groups I know have good relationships with airfield security and actually report suspicious behaviour to them. Several I know have been directly been asked to not post of mention specific movements
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Old 22nd Mar 2022, 12:00
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I still think the stream of low-level info can be mined for useful info -- think Enigma and the massive card-index system of WW2. But then I came across this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60762772
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Old 22nd Mar 2022, 13:51
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Originally Posted by cynicalint View Post
..... But once analysis, discussion, comments and opinions based on personal and professional knowledge is applied, that becomes a potential area of concern. ....,....
But isn't this is happening now on TV when some, now retired, senior rank gives their professional analysis and opinion of what may happen next.?
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Old 22nd Mar 2022, 15:53
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So glad I could amuse you!
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Old 22nd Mar 2022, 15:59
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Originally Posted by rattman View Post

The plane spotter groups I know have good relationships with airfield security and actually report suspicious behaviour to them.
So true. At most of the airfield viewing areas there are signs giving relevant telephone numbers to do so. I recall being in the tower when there was a Jaguar "incident" on the runway. We sent Rover out to the spotters and asked if any had it on film. It was a long time ago but i believe the Phot section or 41 developed the film straight away and the owners got a freebie afternoon visit to the tower.

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ISeveral I know have been directly been asked to not post of mention specific movements
Interesting. So on the one hand we have stations asking spotter groups to be cautious, an IntO warning of the dangers, people directly/indirectly involved urging restraint...and on the other hand the "experts" stating it is not an issue.
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Old 22nd Mar 2022, 19:32
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Why would two defence ministers say that they have exhausted their supplies of anti-tank weapons ?
Are they baiting another trap with deliberate misinformation ?
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Old 23rd Mar 2022, 00:51
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Originally Posted by Brewster Buffalo View Post
But isn't this is happening now on TV when some, now retired, senior rank gives their professional analysis and opinion of what may happen next.?
Precisely.
It happened during Kosovo and before then as well.
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Old 23rd Mar 2022, 07:46
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Originally Posted by tartare View Post
Precisely.
It happened during Kosovo and before then as well.
Just adds to the fog, doesn't it ? These pundits comment on open-source information, so presumably simply regurgitate tactics from their text-books of 20/30 years before : none of which ought to be a surprise to a major adversary. I cannot see this adds anything of real use.

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