Dassault Falcon 900LX replace 32 Sqn BAE 146

[The Flying Stool]

Interestingly, Lizz Truss travelled to Moscow on a diplomatic mission on one of the 146s surprisingly rather than the A321s. Interestingly, it seemed to include a refuelling stop in Warsaw. A Falcon 900 could do that in one.

[NutLoose]

Cat, you can hold a part 66 and a Section L for free, or it was at my last renewal, on my last one as long as I had certified on my part 66 that was enough, prior to that I listed my Spitfire X1X engine / airframe experience for it.

As for the section L / Part 66 debate, the section L was hard, stupid things like sitting all the exam modules and then failing one resulting in all the module exams requiring to be retaken, even if previously passed and also a time limit on sitting them all.

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[Cat Techie]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

Cat, you can hold a part 66 and a Section L for free, or it was at my last renewal, on my last one as long as I had certified on my part 66 that was enough, prior to that I listed my Spitfire X1X engine / airframe experience for it.

As for the section L / Part 66 debate, the section L was hard, stupid things like sitting all the exam modules and then failing one resulting in all the module exams requiring to be retaken, even if previously passed and also a time limit on sitting them all.

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I will take you up on the BCAR L. Be interesting to see. Having to retake subjects you passed is non sensical to be honest. Was a time limit on EASA until recently extended. However with Part 66 surprisingly as first type you have to do the jobs and supposed to be examined in knowledge by the B1 certifying as an oral as you do them. Back on topic mind. More Union Flags pouring down a drain plug. This lot got another huge bung from HMG to keep a sponsor going? Titan seen to have got a great deal (I almost worked for, they would have been hit hard bar their military and cargo contracts and do have mates working there) but it is public money! I forgot, no corruption at all with HMG.

[chevvron]

Originally Posted by The Flying Stool

Interestingly, Lizz Truss travelled to Moscow on a diplomatic mission on one of the 146s

How, they've both been consigned to museums? Was this yesterday?
Boris going to Poland today presumably on a '321 and Prince Willam in Dubai in '336 today.

[Davef68]

I think only one has gone to a Museum (Duxford) The other CC2 is still in service at the moment. Not sure of the C3s,

Liz TRuss on twitter

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/f...gainst-ukraine

[Deep and fast]

Was it an urban myth that a Dassault Falcon got delivered with snooping equipment on board?

[Duchess_Driver]

Probably snooping versions of the Falcon exist across the world, but probably the most “famous” Falcon was

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-...y-frigate/amp/

[JeanKhul]

Originally Posted by Duchess_Driver

Probably snooping versions of the Falcon exist across the world, but probably the most “famous” Falcon was ...

Yeap, great day it was. For years they believed it had been a Mirage F1EQ - and they were wondering why it was flying at such a low speed, as seen on the radars....

[Addlepate]

Originally Posted by chopper2004

Here ya go

https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles...AqlHweXUs4xOlg

I assume the shading is artistic licence, rather than impressive use of ground effect or a previously unpublicised hover capability ...

[Cat Techie]

Seen 3 jobs advertised for engineers at Northolt for Falcon 900. Must be British licences as well. Only Falcon 900 job I could apply for seeing the rest of the UK corporate world is outside the limits for my great UK CAA AML.

[Cat Techie]

value for money and a waste of money. Boris looking for another hi viz jacket.

[chopper2004]

Second Envoy

https://raf.mod.uk/news/articles/roy...ity/?fs=e&s=cl

[NutLoose]

Really went to town on that paint scheme, it looks like a handback white tail..

Establishing the new Command Support Air Transport service with Envoy IV

I wonder why they never went with Royal Air Force Air Support Command? we used to have one..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Air_Support_Command

[Davef68]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

Really went to town on that paint scheme, it looks like a handback white tail..

Nice and anonymous

[pr00ne]

Originally Posted by NutLoose

Really went to town on that paint scheme, it looks like a handback white tail..



I wonder why they never went with Royal Air Force Air Support Command? we used to have one..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Air_Support_Command

Maybe because Air Support Command was disbanded in 1972, 50, that’s FIFTY, years ago!

[Langball]

If you look at the nose of both aircraft (one the top, just aft of the radome) the one of the left seems to be fitted with the 'Enhanced Flight Vision System' but not the one of the right. Have they both different avionics?

[MPN11]

Originally Posted by Langball

If you look at the nose of both aircraft (one the top, just aft of the radome) the one of the left seems to be fitted with the 'Enhanced Flight Vision System' but not the one of the right. Have they both different avionics?

Or a bit of a building in the background?

[NutLoose]

Originally Posted by pr00ne

Maybe because Air Support Command was disbanded in 1972, 50, that’s FIFTY, years ago!

Well, as they have formed a new “Command” they could have just as well resurrected an older one.

I did wonder if they were delivered as white tails to get modified with a secure fit and IR jammers etc before adding the final scheme?

[lonsdale2]

Originally Posted by Langball

If you look at the nose of both aircraft (one the top, just aft of the radome) the one of the left seems to be fitted with the 'Enhanced Flight Vision System' but not the one of the right. Have they both different avionics?

This is the first one, looks like EFVS fitted.

[NutLoose]

Originally Posted by Davef68

I think only one has gone to a Museum (Duxford) The other CC2 is still in service at the moment. Not sure of the C3s,

Liz TRuss on twitter

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/f...gainst-ukraine

Dave, I believe one went to Duxford and one to Saints, they were then spares recovered for the company that bought the others in NZ, I believe they were the ones that donated them to the museums, NOT the MOD. It bloody annoys me that when you read all bumpf from the RAF and MOD appear to take some credit for them going to the museums without actually stating who donated them.

Australian airline Pionair has acquired the four aircraft and is set to place the two former TNT Airways BAe 146 C3s into service down under. However, it has opted to donate the two smaller, 146 CC.2 Statesman examples to museums following sympathetic spares recovery. The Sydney/Bankstown-based carrier has acquired the VIP-configured jets for their low-hour Honeywell ALF 502 powerplants and auxiliary power units. It has built eight engines from time-expired components which will then be fitted to the preserved airliners to replace the existing units.

https://www.key.aero/article/raf-ret...46-iwm-duxford

Off the MOD website

“I’m really pleased that this aircraft with such a famous history has been given a home in Wales. The Royal Air Force was proud to remember the valour and service of Group Captain Rees, the first Commanding Officer of 32 Squadron, when this BAe146 was named after him. I hope many people in Wales and beyond will come to see it at the South Wales Aviation Museum.”

We're very thankful to the RAF for the generous gift of this historic British jet. To have an aircraft which performed such a high-profile role is a real boost for the museum and the fact that it has a Welsh connection to a VC winner makes it even more special. It joins a Tornado GR4 which the RAF gifted to the museum last year

so someone’s telling porkies.

https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles/royal-jet-lies-in-for-retirement-at-south-wales-museum/

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/112202-uks-royal-air-force-ends-bae-146-operations