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Old 6th Feb 2022, 06:21
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Plenty of old boys here, anyone still serving? It’s about them really, not those in the waiting room.
I’d rather be in the waiting room than mincing around dressed like an extra from an Austin Powers film, talking about my feelings. Fill your boots Sprog
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Old 6th Feb 2022, 07:16
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Perhaps if the views and experiences of older people were (at least) listened to, there would be fewer cock ups. I have often found people trying to reinvent the wheel, usually at great and unnecessary expense.

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Old 6th Feb 2022, 10:02
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while the old and bold are being eaten by worms.
. Nah, they would choke on the ashes!!
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Old 6th Feb 2022, 10:30
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If they are going for the Star Trek look will they consider Skants ? asking for a friend
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Originally Posted by Old-Duffer View Post
Perhaps if the views and experiences of older people were (at least) listened to, there would be fewer cock ups. I have often found people trying to reinvent the wheel, usually at great and unnecessary expense.

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OD, that’s part of the problem! You no more understand today’s youngster than I do… but each of us has a shelf life of being relevant when it comes to THEIR RAF.
The beard issue is a great recent example, and to be fair I wasn’t sold on it… but I have heard of no aircraft failing to launch because of a beard!
We ALL have a shelf life.
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Old 6th Feb 2022, 17:23
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First guy/ gal to get the crabs in his or her beard will bring back the clean shaven look PDQ
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Old 6th Feb 2022, 17:38
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While working at an "Operational HQ", which was just another nondescript suburban office block we all had to wear CADPAT ( Canadian Disruptive Camouflage Pattern) that is the pixelated many pocketed uniform worn by the professional pedestrians Army when they were out camping fighting in the woods. As a Naval Officer I found the idea of having to wear the relish suit rather offensive.

One day a memo made the rounds asking for input to the "uniform advisory committee". I recommended that a new uniform be commissioned. It would be called "OFFICEPAT" and would be decorated with segments of office furnishings including a stapler, desk corner , fragment of a safety poster, edge of a water cooler etc etc. This would allow staffers to hide in plain site when the big boss was on the rampage. Strangely my idea was not adopted and I was given a stern lecture about not wasting the important committee's time with frivolous suggestions.......
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Old 6th Feb 2022, 17:55
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Oh, I say, that’s a bit harsh! Please remember that a fighting Service is also about History and Traditions, and we are some of that!
Good of you to revere your Royal Navy service so fondly!
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Old 6th Feb 2022, 17:55
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I've mentioned this before, but whatever ... Callout Exercise at HQ 11 Gp in the 80s. I turn up, fully booted and spurred in DPM, Green Shirt/Sweater, LFO Webbing with filled water bottle and Respirator, and eventually brief AOC on airfield states. After the briefing I was told I should have been wearing a blue polyester shirt and blue sweater. Because the RAF didn't issue Green kit, unless deployed.

I wonder what they would have said if I'd been carrying my own [private] 9mm Browning with filled magazines from my own [private] stock? "Oh, you can't shoot intruders with that, it's not Gov't issue"?

Priorities? Been mentioned up-Thread. Bloody stupidity still rules.
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Old 6th Feb 2022, 18:12
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Good of you to revere your Royal Navy service so fondly!
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Cheers, Jack. I shall never regard Cabins, Gash and the like in any other way.
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Old 6th Feb 2022, 19:02
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Cheers, Jack. I shall never regard Cabins, Gash and the like in any other way.
Cheers indeed, Shippers. Must go, I'm just off on a run ashore with a baron....there's a fast black waiting!

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Old 6th Feb 2022, 22:48
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I've mentioned this before, but whatever ... Callout Exercise at HQ 11 Gp in the 80s. I turn up, fully booted and spurred in DPM, Green Shirt/Sweater, LFO Webbing with filled water bottle and Respirator, and eventually brief AOC on airfield states. After the briefing I was told I should have been wearing a blue polyester shirt and blue sweater. Because the RAF didn't issue Green kit, unless deployed.

I wonder what they would have said if I'd been carrying my own [private] 9mm Browning with filled magazines from my own [private] stock? "Oh, you can't shoot intruders with that, it's not Gov't issue"?

Priorities? Been mentioned up-Thread. Bloody stupidity still rules.
Absolutely in tune with this! I did two years attached to the Army and felt far smarter and more military-minded in good ol’ junglies. When I came back to an RAF station, it just seemed so…..REMF…..
As an aside, my lad has been in the RAF Cadets for 3 years and has never worn anything other than Army kit-and very smart he looks.

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Old 8th Feb 2022, 09:10
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While working at an "Operational HQ", which was just another nondescript suburban office block we all had to wear CADPAT ( Canadian Disruptive Camouflage Pattern) that is the pixelated many pocketed uniform worn by the professional pedestrians Army when they were out camping fighting in the woods.
I am reminded of RAF West Drayton back in the 1980s. Totally urban situation and, during exercises, the Sanger’s being “camouflaged” with the standard green foliage nets etc.

Meanwhile we wandered down the road between the mess and the main site in DPMs getting strange looks from the passers-by

It was pointed out they stood out like sore thumbs and would have been better disguised as skips etc whilst we would be better wearing civvies - as did those working in MOD because of the IRA threat.

But rules were rules and that was what the manual said….

Which leads back to hats and rank tabs - which at Staxton Wold, as soon as we got to any alert state, we were told to remove, because snipers would automatically go for the officers….
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I wonder what they would have said if I'd been carrying my own [private] 9mm Browning with filled magazines from my own [private] stock? "Oh, you can't shoot intruders with that, it's not Gov't issue"?

Ah yes, I used to get funny looks at my annual range qual when I pitched up with my Colt .38 auto (worn underneath the flying suit) or, in latter days my short-barrel .357 Magnum which fitted neatly into Her Majesty’s shoulder holster. Ear duffs definitely needed for the latter, which drilled [email protected] holes in the Fig 11 target. That was before the madness that was Dunblane required us to surrender our pieces.

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Old 8th Feb 2022, 10:25
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Which leads back to hats and rank tabs - which at Staxton Wold, as soon as we got to any alert state, we were told to remove, because snipers would automatically go for the officers….
Which is why, when acting as visiting DISTAFF, I advised the Stn Cdr that driving around in his "shiny black" with pennant flying would also be a sniper magnet. I was pleased to see on my next visit that he was using a shaggy old SWB Land-rover!
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