New RAF Uniform
Originally Posted by Bob Viking
Let’s be honest. Whatever ideas are produced the ex-military members of the forum will hate it regardless.
For me personally I can virtually count on one hand the number of times I’ve worn my No.2 uniform since I left Cranwell so I don’t really care. And if I’m honest, I think anything would be an improvement on the ill-fitting, scratchy blue trousers and jumper that I’m currently expected to wear when the situation arises.
I have no idea if the attached images are a wind-up or genuine but I’m not about to get excited either way.
If it was up to me, I’d just ditch the concept of a No.2 blue uniform and use the MTP clothing as the everyday wear and No.1 for smart occasions.
I’ll still spend 99.9% of my days in a flying suit.
BV
For me personally I can virtually count on one hand the number of times I’ve worn my No.2 uniform since I left Cranwell so I don’t really care. And if I’m honest, I think anything would be an improvement on the ill-fitting, scratchy blue trousers and jumper that I’m currently expected to wear when the situation arises.
I have no idea if the attached images are a wind-up or genuine but I’m not about to get excited either way.
If it was up to me, I’d just ditch the concept of a No.2 blue uniform and use the MTP clothing as the everyday wear and No.1 for smart occasions.
I’ll still spend 99.9% of my days in a flying suit.
BV
Originally Posted by Lima Juliet
BV
I’ve done Orderly Officer, Station Duty Officer and Duty Station Exec in a flying suit for 25+ years! As long as you have your No 1 ready for a KINFORM then there normally isn’t an issue. The policy to do it in blues changed in the mid 90s if I recall.
I’ve done Orderly Officer, Station Duty Officer and Duty Station Exec in a flying suit for 25+ years! As long as you have your No 1 ready for a KINFORM then there normally isn’t an issue. The policy to do it in blues changed in the mid 90s if I recall.
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As someone long retired but still with an interest what is the rationale for changing the current uniform at what will, no doubt be a huge cost ? From personal e3xperience I hope that the production issue matches the quality of the trial issue assuming there is one. I still think all uniforms look better with a 'chipbag' !
Originally Posted by Lima Juliet
The RAF did a blue/grey PCS trial at Leeming and Wittering.
There were a few issues with it. I think they quickly started looking tatty as the blue/grey faded like old jeans, and also the lighter colour or plain pattern showed up every oil spot and hydraulic stain. The dark navy blue of RN PCS and MTP PCS hides a multitude of sins. If we went for blue/grey RAF ‘crab fat’ blue PCS then it would need to be fairly stain resistant and colour fast.
However, my main beef would be such a uniform attracting a beret - unless they saw sense and allowed the field service cap to be worn in lieu as well. One stars and above are allowed to wear them, so it’s hardly that big a leap to allow ‘chip bags’ to be worn instead of berets with PCS type clothing - they were designed for field use, after all.
As for the Goldie Lookin’ Chain leisure suits - no thanks. If I want to look chav then I’ll go work in a leisure centre.
There were a few issues with it. I think they quickly started looking tatty as the blue/grey faded like old jeans, and also the lighter colour or plain pattern showed up every oil spot and hydraulic stain. The dark navy blue of RN PCS and MTP PCS hides a multitude of sins. If we went for blue/grey RAF ‘crab fat’ blue PCS then it would need to be fairly stain resistant and colour fast.
However, my main beef would be such a uniform attracting a beret - unless they saw sense and allowed the field service cap to be worn in lieu as well. One stars and above are allowed to wear them, so it’s hardly that big a leap to allow ‘chip bags’ to be worn instead of berets with PCS type clothing - they were designed for field use, after all.
As for the Goldie Lookin’ Chain leisure suits - no thanks. If I want to look chav then I’ll go work in a leisure centre.
Originally Posted by Bob Viking
From what I can remember many flying stations now allow Orderly Officer duties to be conducted in flying suit. It’s been 5 years since I last worked on a UK flying Station though so things may have changed. In fact I’ve spent about 10 of my 22 years overseas so that may explain my lack of contact with the scratchy blue.
I may have exaggerated slightly (I have normal hands) but aside from courses such as FLAC/FSC/JOCC there really isn’t much call for me to drag the blues down from the loft.
MPN11, I’ll refrain from getting into the flying suit debate. I’ll keep my ‘elitist’ views on that to myself.
BV
I may have exaggerated slightly (I have normal hands) but aside from courses such as FLAC/FSC/JOCC there really isn’t much call for me to drag the blues down from the loft.
MPN11, I’ll refrain from getting into the flying suit debate. I’ll keep my ‘elitist’ views on that to myself.
BV
With all the current "wokery", am I the only one a bit surprised at the reflectivity and apparent gender of the chosen model for the proposed garb? . ....
Avoid imitations
Originally Posted by Haraka
With all the current "wokery", am I the only one a bit surprised at the reflectivity and apparent gender of the chosen model for the proposed garb? . ....
This drive for new uniform seems entirely consistent with the apparent MO of the current senior leadership: expend masses of time, money and effort on finding ‘solutions’ for problems that either don’t exist or aren’t a priority, while comprehensively failing to address long-term issues that effect a huge percentage of Forces personnel on a daily basis.
Originally Posted by Stratnumberone
This drive for new uniform seems entirely consistent with the apparent MO of the current senior leadership: expend masses of time, money and effort on finding ‘solutions’ for problems that either don’t exist or aren’t a priority, while comprehensively failing to address long-term issues that effect a huge percentage of Forces personnel on a daily basis.
If you read in the Housing thread i posted this
In the letter, the Annington chair also criticised the state of the properties – which are maintained by the Government as part of the initial sale agreement – as “unacceptable” for service personnel.
On Wednesday, Annington added that it is offering a £105 million fund to improve and modernise service personnel homes.
It told the MoD that the cash made available for the fund will instead need to be used for legal costs if an agreement is not found in the next two weeks and a litigation process begins.
Baroness Liddell also criticised the Government for spending £36.6 million in rent per year on around 7,230 vacant properties in the estate.“It makes no sense at all for the MoD either to spend these vast sums renting homes with no occupants, or to deprive would-be homeowners/buyers of a proper home of their own,” she wrote.
On Wednesday, Annington added that it is offering a £105 million fund to improve and modernise service personnel homes.
It told the MoD that the cash made available for the fund will instead need to be used for legal costs if an agreement is not found in the next two weeks and a litigation process begins.
Baroness Liddell also criticised the Government for spending £36.6 million in rent per year on around 7,230 vacant properties in the estate.“It makes no sense at all for the MoD either to spend these vast sums renting homes with no occupants, or to deprive would-be homeowners/buyers of a proper home of their own,” she wrote.
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Does not affect me as I am long gone from the fray. The GP Jacket is not too bad even if it looks like a PTI uniform, but the two -tone ??
Surely in this day and woke age we should allow a choice of colours, Pink, Mauve, Orange and the other colours of the LGBT Etc flag.
Anyway what they look like on a slim young mannequin is one thing. On a less slim 53 year old perhaps another. Anybody with Photoshop ability want
to try it on the two characters in the Caption Competition?
Surely in this day and woke age we should allow a choice of colours, Pink, Mauve, Orange and the other colours of the LGBT Etc flag.
Anyway what they look like on a slim young mannequin is one thing. On a less slim 53 year old perhaps another. Anybody with Photoshop ability want
to try it on the two characters in the Caption Competition?
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Many years ago in RAFG, I met a forward air controller who lived with the army, calling into Gutersloh very occasionally for admin. He was ' man at C&A ', buying trousers shirts and a snappy windcheater from shops. Obviously in a tasteful blue.WIthout comparators, the army never knew. And he got a smart crease resistant outfit that fitted.
Maybe this is the way forward?
Maybe this is the way forward?
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And anything that stops the General Public thinking you're an RAC mechanic gets my vote....
Originally Posted by Stratnumberone
This drive for new uniform seems entirely consistent with the apparent MO of the current senior leadership: expend masses of time, money and effort on finding ‘solutions’ for problems that either don’t exist or aren’t a priority, while comprehensively failing to address long-term issues that effect a huge percentage of Forces personnel on a daily basis.
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"The images leaked online were misleading and have led some people to mistakenly believe that they are approved, final designs. They are instead an artist's impression of what the new uniforms could look like. The actual design process is still in the very early stages and no decisions have been made." In other words: stand by, the final designs could be even worse than those depicted above!
Originally Posted by Stratnumberone
This drive for new uniform seems entirely consistent with the apparent MO of the current senior leadership: expend masses of time, money and effort on finding ‘solutions’ for problems that either don’t exist or aren’t a priority, while comprehensively failing to address long-term issues that effect a huge percentage of Forces personnel on a daily basis.
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Originally Posted by Il Duce
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