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Old 19th Nov 2021, 12:00
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According to the press, yes. They have deep diving unmanned submersibles closer at hand.
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Good to see nothing has changed, I take it the white toe caps are to prevent someone nicking his / her / its flying boots...
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Old 19th Nov 2021, 15:14
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Good to see nothing has changed, I take it the white toe caps are to prevent someone nicking his / her / its flying boots...

Or to leave witness marks if they hit the airframe on the way out.
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Old 19th Nov 2021, 15:22
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Good to see nothing has changed, I take it the white toe caps are to prevent someone nicking his / her / its flying boots... [img]images/smilies/evil.gif[/img]
Nah - it's like the brown ones - stop you wearing them with blues!
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Thanks Orac, got a chuckle out of that.
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So, any inkling yet as to the cause, or are we drawing a blank? 🤔
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So, any inkling yet as to the cause, or are we drawing a blank? 🤔
...Ouch...
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Old 19th Nov 2021, 22:36
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If the jet made a rolling take off - are we talking intake or exhaust blank?
Intake - highly visible to multiple people on deck before wheels started turning.
Exhaust - shirley not possible because jet wouldn't go anywhere - highly degraded thrust.
And the lift fan doesn't need one - it's got doors.
Struggling to see how the egoat rumour can possibly be correct.
But they're now saying the ejectee landed on the flight deck!
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Originally Posted by H Peacock
So, any inkling yet as to the cause, or are we drawing a blank? 🤔
Nicely done H Peacock, nicely done ha ha.
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F35 is a mistake keep repeated. Same like German Kriegsmarine Bismarck and Tirpitz. State of art at huge cost and no real use in war. Just keep producing an upgraded F16, much more efficient
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Old 20th Nov 2021, 00:51
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Originally Posted by CargoOne
F35 is a mistake keep repeated. Same like German Kriegsmarine Bismarck and Tirpitz. State of art at huge cost and no real use in war. Just keep producing an upgraded F16, much more efficient

Well, the F16 does have a tail hook.



(that’s satire before someone decides to prepare a lecture on the emergency nature of the F16 hook)
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ONE MILE DEEP - good luck with that: ‘Asked the Americans' UK calls for US help to recover RAF F35 jet in race against Russia (msn.com)

"The British military has received support from their American counterparts in the search to recover a F35B Lightning II, the Times reports. Navy sources told the broadsheet: "A number of nations have the capability to recover an aircraft from that depth........Reports suggest the jet is more than a mile below the surface. The process itself is supposedly "not rocket science"...."
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Old 20th Nov 2021, 09:16
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Originally Posted by H Peacock
So, any inkling yet as to the cause, or are we drawing a blank? 🤔
Now that made me chuckle.

Red herrings aside as I cannot believe something so obvious would have been missed., but how many other little RBF tags could have a catastrophic effect. A hunch would suggest the majority, and it wouldn't be the first time one has been left on.
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Originally Posted by SATCOS WHIPPING BOY
Now that made me chuckle.

Red herrings aside as I cannot believe something so obvious would have been missed.
And yet as history has shown they can be as big as you want, painted any colour you want and yet they do get missed.

Technology may change but somehow Murphy still finds a workaround.
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Originally Posted by wiggy
And yet as history has shown they can be as big as you want, painted any colour you want and yet they do get missed.

Technology may change but somehow Murphy still finds a workaround.
So true Wiggy, so true.
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Quick detour. A fascinating read on the loss and recovery of an F-14A which rolled off JFK into the North Sea. Crew ejected and landed back on the flight deck, in full view of a Soviet cruiser.

Tomcat Deep! ? HistoricWings.com :: A Magazine for Aviators, Pilots and Adventurers
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Do they even use intake blanks on the F-35? I've seen photos on QE with RBF tags, but none that show intake (or engine) blanking plates.
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Old 20th Nov 2021, 13:26
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Originally Posted by Davef68
Do they even use intake blanks on the F-35? I've seen photos on QE with RBF tags, but none that show intake (or engine) blanking plates.
The UK F-35Bs do use engine intake blanks - the soft variety.

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Originally Posted by SpazSinbad
ONE MILE DEEP - good luck with that: ‘Asked the Americans' UK calls for US help to recover RAF F35 jet in race against Russia (msn.com)

"The British military has received support from their American counterparts in the search to recover a F35B Lightning II, the Times reports. Navy sources told the broadsheet: "A number of nations have the capability to recover an aircraft from that depth........Reports suggest the jet is more than a mile below the surface. The process itself is supposedly "not rocket science"...."
Richmond's Lynx was 4km down and was successfully recovered so 1 mile is well within current capability.
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