Command Support Air Transport Recapitalisation
I did not fly on Maggies's trip but did some of the 'trials' with the 'VIP' cabin. IIRC it was an ordinary (secondhand ?) touring caravan and there were a few problems. Finding somewhere to attach the chains to it tie it down to meet the regs was one. Another was the tendency for the caravan walls to dance to the tune of the Allison and Hamilton band. Soundproofing of a sort was fitted. Another was the way it got hot inside. On the C130 the heating was supplied via overhead vents and this heated up the caravan. Fans were installed but they were nosy etc.
As for Denis watching the refuel, I never knew a pax who did not if they got the chance. !
As for Denis watching the refuel, I never knew a pax who did not if they got the chance. !
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Be interesting to dig down into that figure; 3850 miles from an unrestricted airfield. Northolt, especially on 07, is pretty restrictive, especially with 8 pax (near full load on a super-mid)! Plenty of jets have a 'book' figure of 3850, but I don't think that's quite enough to make it to DC in one go.
Don't know if there's any Dassault drivers here, but Falcon 2000LXS book range is about 4000nm...not sure how many pax you could carry. And, of course, there's not a 'standard' DASS fit out there for a Falcon. Eventually you end up with G550, although the production line has stopped now, so you would need to find two similar used examples. Definitely not enough money there for even G400!
Don't know if there's any Dassault drivers here, but Falcon 2000LXS book range is about 4000nm...not sure how many pax you could carry. And, of course, there's not a 'standard' DASS fit out there for a Falcon. Eventually you end up with G550, although the production line has stopped now, so you would need to find two similar used examples. Definitely not enough money there for even G400!
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Challenger 650 book range is 4000, but even NY is dependent on the winds for getting there non-stop westbound. Washington is probably a 50/50 chance. Back no problem!
Also the issue of Northolt as a base. You're not going to get transatlantic range out of there in a Challenger. A Falcon or a Global probably can, but then you're looking at a lot more capital cost.
Also the issue of Northolt as a base. You're not going to get transatlantic range out of there in a Challenger. A Falcon or a Global probably can, but then you're looking at a lot more capital cost.
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Here is a modern Herc VIP fit, I assume its palletised.
https://www.airteamimages.com/lockhe...rgo_59377.html
This one is, but appears a bit more basic
https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2014/...ts-containers/
https://www.airteamimages.com/lockhe...rgo_59377.html
This one is, but appears a bit more basic
https://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2014/...ts-containers/
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our 'VIP' fit was nothing like those ! The most we could generally muster (when we took Baroness Chalker to Hargeisa for example) was a few ex Beverley seats and what was then known as the WAAF toilet !
our 'VIP' fit was nothing like those ! The most we could generally muster (when we took Baroness Chalker to Hargeisa for example) was a few ex Beverley seats and what was then known as the WAAF toilet !
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More like this?
This is seriously impressive
https://www.sgamf.com/suites.html
https://knightaerospace.com/product/...sport-modules/
This is seriously impressive
https://www.sgamf.com/suites.html
https://knightaerospace.com/product/...sport-modules/
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VC10's used to as well as the norm. The only ones I can think of offhand that used to fly into Brize were Charles and Diana as it was nearer home.
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So 3,850 miles it is. Refuelling stop westbound at Shannon, like BA did with their Baby Jets from London City to JFK?
So 3,850 miles it is. Refuelling stop westbound at Shannon, like BA did with their Baby Jets from London City to JFK?
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Perhaps I have missed something but in several reference specs I see for the Falcon 900LX, they refer to a max range of approximately 4,650 nm (NBAA 4 Pax IFR Range)
Dassault
The 900LX has a maximum range of 4,750 nm (8,800 km) and a maximum speed of Mach .84. It can take you from Geneva to Chicago, Mumbai to London City or Hong Kong to Sydney, nonstop, while consuming far less fuel than its competitors. In addition to airfield agility, the hallmark of trijet design, the 900LX allows more direct, over-water routing, an advantage that saves both time and fuel, while also enhancing safety.
Another reference
https://altivationaircraft.com/falcon-900lx/
Does the loading of 8 pax + ego's reduce the range by 900 nm?
IG
Dassault
The 900LX has a maximum range of 4,750 nm (8,800 km) and a maximum speed of Mach .84. It can take you from Geneva to Chicago, Mumbai to London City or Hong Kong to Sydney, nonstop, while consuming far less fuel than its competitors. In addition to airfield agility, the hallmark of trijet design, the 900LX allows more direct, over-water routing, an advantage that saves both time and fuel, while also enhancing safety.
Another reference
https://altivationaircraft.com/falcon-900lx/
Does the loading of 8 pax + ego's reduce the range by 900 nm?
IG