AUKUS
There are some interesting parallels there…
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Re Darwin as a base, it was attempted to set up a sub base there in WWII, but the high tides, shallow water (easily mined) and open coast line scotched the idea. There is a Japanese sub with the entire entombed crew sitting on the bottom in 157' of water close by, had been sunk by depth charge from a corvette.
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Ask Angela Merkel how much she enjoyed his phone calls.
They will soon send him back!
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Kevin Rudd is priceless!
Have a look at his record on Wikipedia.
Never has so little be achieved in such a short time in power.
And yet you would think his John Curtin or Robert Menzies the way he carries on.
Julia Gillard thought he was nuts.
Why anybody listens to him is a mystery.
Have a look at his record on Wikipedia.
Never has so little be achieved in such a short time in power.
And yet you would think his John Curtin or Robert Menzies the way he carries on.
Julia Gillard thought he was nuts.
Why anybody listens to him is a mystery.
I don't think anyone is saying that diplomatically, That it wasn't done poorly and ham-fisted. That doesn't change the facts on the ground.
You are confusing the two. AUKUS is an upgrade from 5 eyes. What is contained in that far exceeds a nuke sub. The nuke sub is a shiny, distracting headline to what is happening and is just a small part of AUKUS
The French are very fair. They will sell anything to anybody.
The French are very fair. They will sell anything to anybody.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland if you please....Great Britain consisting of Scotland, Wales and England. It is like talking about Catalonia, when you meant Spain or British Airways, when you mean IAG. 
Anyway, according to sleepy joe, the US has no closer ally than Australia.........Really?...I mean, really?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ter-aukus-pact
Anyway, according to sleepy joe, the US has no closer ally than Australia.........Really?...I mean, really?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ter-aukus-pact
Then of course, that was the founding fathers who were intelligent and educated - as the Late Gore Vidal once noted "Our Republic was created by the smartest people in the country and we haven't seen them since."
I agree.
Ideal jet for Australia.
And both platforms are special weapons capable.
Which Hugh White says needs to be part of the discussion - his report is very interesting reading.
The Australian public is hopelessly naive in my view - I am in favour of a full nuclear deterrent.
Ideal jet for Australia.
And both platforms are special weapons capable.
Which Hugh White says needs to be part of the discussion - his report is very interesting reading.
The Australian public is hopelessly naive in my view - I am in favour of a full nuclear deterrent.
I'll look for that Hugh White article. We should have upgraded the F-111 with supercruising engines - an asset tossed away because of politics. As for the B21, of course the yanks may refuse to sell it but it seems a bit incongruous as they'd be saying "You're our closest ally and we trust you with hour leading edge sub technology but not the aeroplane". We'd probably only need 12.
Crikey - if they're trusting us with reactors etc. and the JSF - then the new jet isn't much of a step further.
And personally - I'd be holding out for the V-280 rather than the Osprey.
That thing is going to be a fantastic aircraft.
And personally - I'd be holding out for the V-280 rather than the Osprey.
That thing is going to be a fantastic aircraft.