Midway
I almost went to Midway at the end of my Britannia course world trainer in 1966. We planned to fly nonstop from Guam to Honolulu with a refuelling stop at Midway if required. It was very close, but we just had enough fuel for the direct flight, which was a shame historically.
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Two weeks, not bad for the old Yacht, I bet the aircraft wouldn't do it that quickly.
I cannot understand the hatred of CGI, without it you wouldn’t have a film
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I suppose the original Dambusters was ok then, except when they filmed the Lancs at 60ft it looked even higher so shot the aircraft scenes at 30ft.
There is nothing wrong with CGI. What is wrong is how it is used to produce something totally unrealistic. As stated, the aircraft are FAR too close together. "Red Tails" was similar. I suppose they think it makes it far more exciting to those "not in the know" but for those who are it is simply laughable and spoils the whole film;.
In contrast, because of this thread I re-watched the 2019 Midway remake last night (I have it on Blu-Ray 4k - most of the time 4k is amazing, but for this movie it may actually be a determent by emphasizing the falseness of the CGI). The plot isn't bad (aside from some horribly unrealistic details), but so much of the CGI special effects had my mind screaming "THAT'S SO FAKE". Contrast that to say "Avatar" - where you can watch most of the movie without ever thinking about the fact that 10 ft. tall blue humanoids don't really exist...
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Only three of the 200 nation states (countries) extant in 1942 had an effective aircraft carrier. What a coincidence that two of the three nations that had aircraft carriers would go to war with what was an extremely rare weapon and be involved in a pivotal battle. Just a coincidence I guess..
Conclusion: Technology precedes and foretells histrionics.
Conclusion: Technology precedes and foretells histrionics.
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What's worse was that the torpedoes that the TBDs were using were crap - routinely either detonating when they hit the water, or turning off course. So not only were the torpedo squadrons unlikely to return, they were unlikely to do any real damage. In a sense, being decoys to allow the dive bombers to attack relatively unmolested was the best they could have hoped for.
Truly courageous young men.
Truly courageous young men.
I also recommend the Kleiss and Parshall books.
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The failure of US torpedoes in the early part of WW2 was an epic fail of gigantic proportions.
It is a textbook example of bureaucratic incompetence.
”Run Silent Run Deep” is a good read.
It is a textbook example of bureaucratic incompetence.
”Run Silent Run Deep” is a good read.
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My only failing on the CGI front was why everything appeared to burst into flames when hit and normally the port engine or wing.
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Indeed the Mark XIV Torpedo had major problems....the background to why it had the problems it did....and the absolute refusal of those responsible for its pre-War design and testing to accept there were problems with the Torpedo and who blamed the problems on the Sub Crews...makes for interesting reading
You would think the UK Mod was running the show back then when you compare the attitudes and efforts to cover up systemic problems with aircraft in the way the US Navy safely sitting in Stateside Billets blamed operational crews.
Admiral Lockwood led the way in trying to fix the problems and deserves a lot of credit for his leadership of the Australian based Submarine operation.
https://www.historynet.com/us-torped...rld-war-ii.htm
Indeed the Mark XIV Torpedo had major problems....the background to why it had the problems it did....and the absolute refusal of those responsible for its pre-War design and testing to accept there were problems with the Torpedo and who blamed the problems on the Sub Crews...makes for interesting reading
You would think the UK Mod was running the show back then when you compare the attitudes and efforts to cover up systemic problems with aircraft in the way the US Navy safely sitting in Stateside Billets blamed operational crews.
Admiral Lockwood led the way in trying to fix the problems and deserves a lot of credit for his leadership of the Australian based Submarine operation.
https://www.historynet.com/us-torped...rld-war-ii.htm
OP, thanks for the heads up. Watched it on the Cinema app, and I'd echo those who said it was well made but perhaps for a less critical audience than found here. At least as a remake it wasn't a complete mess-up of the original as was that of The Italian Job. That was unforgiveable!
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I wouldn't class myself as a film snob & enjoy a mindless action film as much as the next guy.
But I found Midway completely unwatchable, it's almost as bad as pearl harbour.
Just my personal opinion of course
But I found Midway completely unwatchable, it's almost as bad as pearl harbour.
Just my personal opinion of course
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One thing you didn’t get was people smoking in Submarines underwater.
Greyhound is another good film
Greyhound is another good film