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Old 2nd Sep 2021, 16:23
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How soon before they start conscripting the highly trained former members of the Afghan military into their plans ?
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If they are, it’s without Biden’s approval.

But then again, depending who’s paying, who knows….

https://www.snafu-solomon.com/2021/0...ent-quite.html
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...-ark-the-movie

Coming soon: Operation Ark –The Movie
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Old 2nd Sep 2021, 20:53
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How soon before they start conscripting the highly trained former members of the Afghan military into their plans ?
Odds are they have already got some of them on board. The ones you don't hear complaining - well, some of them - are going to remain in service, perhaps under new terms of service. Kind of the old deal "The Taliban may be arseholes, but they are our arseholes and I can figure out how to cope."
All we seem to hear in the West is the ones who complain.
here are bound to be some who shrug and go "OK, I'm still a soldier and they say they'll pay me" (which was reported to be a bit of a problem with the previous regime some times) and so will just soldier on as soldiers and airmen do.
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The U.K. is looking at the possibility of forming a regiment of Afghan special forces into the British Army along the lines of the Gurkhas
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 05:26
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...iden-xjqs9l6zn

US vehicles for Afghan forces taken to Tehran in new blow for Joe Biden


American equipment is delivered to Tehran in images shown on Iranian TV

A convoy of US military vehicles provided to Afghan forces has been filmed heading for Tehran having been handed over to the Iranian authorities.

The loss of the military equipment to Iran, America’s arch-foe in the Middle East, is a further embarrassment to the Pentagon after the Taliban were seen parading in Kabul in front of captured US-supplied vehicles.

The convoy to Iran included Humvees and “MRAPs”, light armoured vehicles specially protected against mines. The social media channel that first showed the film, and specialises in Iranian military affairs, said that the Iranians had also taken possession of American tanks.

The channel could not confirm details, and it was not clear how Iran came to possess the equipment. There have been reports of Afghan soldiers fleeing over the border into Iran to avoid surrendering to the Taliban, and analysts have speculated that the Iranians, who have given the troops shelter, simply took the vehicles in return.

Iran’s relationship with Afghanistan and the Taliban is sensitive and a matter of dispute. The US believes that Iran supported the Taliban’s rise to power, including by training them in the use of roadside explosive devices……
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Stretching it as a "strategic win" I think but a strategic necessity I'd agree - no point in staying trying to prop up what was clearly a useless and unloved regime.

Time to move on to more important things - NK, Taiwan, China, Russia
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 09:13
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58430255

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-58279900

Fighting in the valley...
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Not forgetting other fingers in the pie ... Qatar and Turkey ...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-58394438

And of course Pakistan ...

Pakistan is concerned about the potential security threat on its doorstep posed by a Taliban-run Afghanistan. Islamabad is said to fear a rise in militant attacks along the Afghan-Pakistan border."The next two to three months are critical," a senior Pakistani official has told Reuters. "We [the international community] have to assist the Taliban in reorganising their army in order for them to control their territory," the source added, referring to the threat posed by resurgent rival militant groups including Islamic State (IS).
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Interesting account in Air Force Times of the last five C-17s out of Kabul

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...20Bird%20Brief

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Some interesting figures.

More at

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Not forgetting Operation Newcombe….

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Newcombe
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Major General "I was the last Out" is not the "Last Out".

U.S. Citizens still stuck there. Maybe other allied nationals as well.

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You are right. "Win" is a bit rich.
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Old 3rd Sep 2021, 16:30
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It's interesting that nothing much is being said about this.
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Another interesting account of life on the runway at Kabul, this time from Deborah Haynes at Sky News. Great to see the boss and guys/gals on 99 (and the other Brize squadrons) maintaining the highest traditions. Makes this old truckie very proud.

https://news.sky.com/story/afghanist...-turn-12398748

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Old 4th Sep 2021, 10:06
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I’ve known Kev for a very long time and I’ve already chatted with him directly about the incident described.

I’ll happily go on record here and say what a bloody great job he and the other crews performed under incredibly stressful circumstances.

I sincerely hope there will be some form of medallic recognition in due course.

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I'm sure it makes us all feel proud.
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It's reported that 365 Afghan pilots and numerous aircraft are in Uzbekistan requesting U.S. evacuation. Taliban says they want the aircraft "back". Type aircraft unk to me.

Source: A Qatari News Organization.
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Old 4th Sep 2021, 14:09
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I sincerely hope there will be some form of medallic recognition in due course.
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As Baldrick might say, “When is a war not a war?”. AFC? … perhaps. QCVSA? … yes.
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I just hope this is the end of Poni Ops

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