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UAP's....Real , threats, or just plain bunk?

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Old 27th Jun 2021, 19:58
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Interesting topic!

Biology first, let's face it humans are squishy things and anybody who has gone 7G plus in an aircraft, will understand the limits of the human body. So if one references the reported maneuvers of the UAP's, then:
1. it isn't man made,
2. it is man made, but un-manned, or
3. it is very high tech which provides damping for the human pilots.

Nikola Tesla had designs for a UFO like aerial vehicle, or so the story goes. And these designs disappeared as soon as he died. Many of Tesla's ideas and designs did and do work, even his idea of wireless power distribution. So who is to say that his "UFO" did not/does not work.
The rise in UFO sightings, after his death, may be a clue. But who has the tech?

The Germans, during WW2 were working on "The Bell", designs and tech all disappeared somewhere.

So these UAP's could be man made.

On the other hand, the case for other worldly visitors can also be made. Many ancient writings, include sections about incredible flying machines with powerful weaponry. How could these ancient writers, imagine such technology?
"Sky people" also feature heavily in many ancient and not so ancient cultures. No way of knowing if they were on something or simply speaking the truth. When you watch some documentaries about this, the latter option seems quite plausible.

I, for one, question how some ancient structures were built with amazing precision, with simple tools like hammers and chisels. Otherworldly tech?
And as noted above, these UAP's have amazing maneuverability. Much, much better than any known man made aircraft.

I saw a headline today which went something like this: Are we not simply the ants, in someone's experiment?

Obviously, with the USA defense and FBI asking for more money to counter this possible threat, there will be no big reveal, as many UFO lovers were hoping for.

Anyway, my 2 cents.
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Old 27th Jun 2021, 20:14
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I, for one, question how some ancient structures were built with amazing precision, with simple tools like hammers and chisels.
An experienced craftsman can produce amazing things with a simple set of tools…
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An experienced craftsman can produce amazing things with a simple set of tools…
......and an unlimited supply of slave labour. My money is on a mixture of atmospheric/meteorological phenomena, optical illusions and misidentified man-made objects. I suppose it's a bit like ghosts, yetis and the Loch Ness Monster; you're sceptical unless you believe you've seen them for yourself.
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Hey....Big Foot is real....but then he is the World's Champion Player of Hide and Seek there has ever been....right?

Why is he called "Big Foot" when his foot prints are described as being rather same sized.....thus accurately called he would be "Big Feet"
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Possibly because the only people seeing him are the ones who didn’t do so well at school?
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Well....the Scots have fine Whisky and the Loch Ness monster.....which might be related somehow.
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I think it makes sense to keep an open mind, especially that small core of instances where phenomena are seen by multiple military personnel simultaneously - as has happened in the latest crop of released videos, but as also happened for example during Operation Mainbrace and the 1952 Washington flap. The "safe" option is probably just to ridicule it all, because no one will make fun of you for that, but it does strike me there's enough in the above category to warrant putting it in the "interesting" pile, without second guessing what's actually going on...
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An experienced craftsman can produce amazing things with a simple set of tools…
So true and no question about what wonders such a person can create. Now take into account the scale of these projects and the number of highly skilled craftsman required and questions do pop up. If they did it all by hand then kudos to them!

Some questions to answer would be:
1. Which natural phenomenon can reflect radar? Weather, doppler radar excluded of course.
2. Which of these natural phenomenon, can spoof radar systems to show high speeds and high maneuverability? How?
3. Same goes for modern observation equipment.

From there a clearer picture could emerge.

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Originally Posted by Aegis8
So true and no question about what wonders such a person can create. Now take into account the scale of these projects and the number of highly skilled craftsman required and questions do pop up. If they did it all by hand then kudos to them!

Some questions to answer would be:
1. Which natural phenomenon can reflect radar? Weather, doppler radar excluded of course.
2. Which of these natural phenomenon, can spoof radar systems to show high speeds and high maneuverability? How?
3. Same goes for modern observation equipment.

From there a clearer picture could emerge.
Not really, people worhed longer and built over much longer timescales.

1. Top of my head add birds, insects and dust.
2. Have you seen a murmuration? They produce complex rapidly changing patterns travelling at far higher speeds than the individual elements. I am not saying this is the cause, just pointing out that simple phenomena can produce surprislingly complex resultes following only simple rules.
3. And still only fuzzy, poor quality images,

I would be very slow to reach for LGM as the explanation, they are more of a distraction, There are many things in heaven and earth without leaving the solar system in search of an answer.
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